3541

Why do you guys feed the troll? Just stick him on ignore, and let him talk to himself over in a corner.

3542

Four people in a room having a blast making music with fake plastic instruments, if that’s not a game, I don’t know what is.

3543

a toy.

3544

Computer and video games are still toys.

3545

No, Draikin! You are not a toy! You are a REAL MAN!

3546

you’re hopeless. There’s nothing that can be redeemed from something who not only proposes the two must be mutually exclusive, but goes to the extreme of, like you seem to, apply a value judgement to the two classifications. If you think Rock Band is not a game by any definition, go try to 100% Green Grass and High Tides on expert, you child. What does an interactive experience that scores you on performance and presents goals that you must attain NEED to become this magical thing called a “game” in your diminutive mind? Shotguns and dead children? a kill counter? I don’t mind you being kinda stupid and silly, but if you’re gonna take the plunge into downright incoherent you might want to stay away from computers, who knows, you might strangle yourself with the mouse cord. Or try to eat the monitor. Who knows.

Also: Hi everyone. Glad to be here. Also, Bill Dungsroman is an asshole. Thank you.

3547

Simply put, you’re demonstrably wrong. Rock Band/Guitar Hero existed before the advent of those fancy controllers under the names Frequency and Amplitude. They played exactly the same, only with a regular controller, and they were unquestionably games. The game mechanics have changed really not at all, and even the biggest game snob would be hard pressed to assert that a change in input method makes something fundamentally not a game.

3548

Here we go again.

3549

2000: Black&White - a nice screensaver
2001: Gamecube - it’s like a Dreamcast without the good games
2002: DoomIII - bad game, bad engine
2003: Half-Life 2 - worse than Half-Life 1
2004: PSP - Gran Turismo trailer made with the PS2 version wowed those professional journalists.
2005: Spore - cant judge it yet but it looks like an evolved tamagotchi.
2006: Wii - the death of gaming
2007: Rock Band - non game
2008: Fallout 3

Great, after 117 pages of Fallout 3 controversy, we can have controversy with a potential of thousands and thousands of pages: guitar games, Wii, Spore, ganes vs non-games, casual vs hardcore games, Doom3 vs HalfLife 2 (a classic!), etc.

3550

The guitar is a toy, what you’re doing with it is called playing a game.

This man had no childhood.

Actually, it explains a lot…

3551

I hope the Red Ryder is in this one …

Including a stock upgradeable with a compass, and perhaps a thing that tells time.

3552

I’ve got a better idea. How about if you don’t?

3553

Hopefully that will change though, right? There’s room in the industry for video games that are more than toys and attempt to deliver an emotionally impactful and engrossing experience.

3554

Angie isn’t the problem: she’s a symptom of the root cause. You can ask her to stop posting gifs, but that’s like taking Tylenol for your cancer.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

CHEMTRAILS

DRAIKIN

3555

The only thing better than an Angie G image gallery is a Bill D image gallery.

3556

AFAIK you can’t customize existing weapons if you find a great rifle without a scope it will forever be without a scope. You can use other weapons to repair it. The item creation thing sounds like it works a lot like Arcanum’s schematics.

PS - According to the Wikia the Red Ryder BB Gun is in:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Ryder_BB_Gun

3557

Red Ryder confirmed for Br–

Goddammit, nevermind.

I bought A Boy and His Dog at B&N yesterday. I didn’t get a chance to watch it yet because I went to my girlfriend’s house and we watched the first few episodes of Firefly.

I think after I watch it the next pre-Fallout post-apocalyptic preparation purchase I make will be Planet of the Apes. What say you?

3558

Uh…hasn’t it always been?

3559

Yeah.

So I could pretty soon play a game where I wander around a nukeler sandbox wasteland with Dogmeat at my side whilst firing full-auto gizmos of precise destruction in other peoples faces? And listen to Billie Holiday? Yeah. I can certainly see where all the controversy about that experience is coming from. No wait!
I can’t.

3560

You win the thread … again.

Don’t you ever get tired of punching yourself in the face?