It’s probably a very good reflection on Oblivion that people see a first person RPG (with nothing else in common with Oblivion) and instantly think to themselves: “Man, this game is like Oblivion in the X universe.”, where X = the setting of the game.
Prodigy
4722
What ? I’m not defending him in the least. I’m just concerned you guys are making fools of yourselves by falling into his obvious troll traps.
Kunikos
4723
Yes, I believe that’s also on page 2 of this thread. ;)
What is? What I said? Because I didn’t see it (just looked back, but maybe we have different content on “page 2”, how many posts per page do you see?)
Scrax
4725
It’s more likely the technology than the game itself that bears so much resemblence to Oblivion. Guard behavior, sneaking, the various little items strewn across each room, how people sleep in beds, how stupid the wife acts when you kill her husband… she slowly steps out of bed, says hi, and walks around the room like nothing happened.
You know, all the little things that make you think hey…that looks like Oblivion with a different texture.
Again, I’m not trying to be negative about the game. Just things I noticed when I watched that Russian guy’s broadcast for 15 minutes this morning.
As a note, I think it’s awesome that you can easily murder people in their sleep, but the NPC behavior of that wife just made me cringe.
Killzig
4726
There were definitely a lot of AI things that made me cringe. At one point he looted the Rivet City gun shop and sold the goods right back to the shop owner who was sitting less than 5 feet away. He picked the lock on an apartment and the NPC standing inside only cautioned that he was watching him. Different enemy types (radroaches and raiders in the same room in this case) don’t seem to fight each other, just key in on you when you enter the area. Some of the voice over has been really terrible (Liam’s in particular)…
The atmosphere looks great though…
In Fallout 2 you could steal everything from the shop owners in San Francisco and sell it right back to them. You could also buy stuff from them and steal your money right back. It was a bit annoying that it made money essentially worthless. If you could buy the most expensive thing in the shop you could by everything in the shop.
I’m not happy about it but I’ve come to expect these things from games that are attempting to give you absolute freedom.
As Balsamic, you could steal/loot/resell in that fashion in Fallout – in fact, stealing was generally very overpowered in that game. It’s not really in Fallout 3, although that’s partially because there’s not a lot of decent stuff to steal from what I could tell.
Different enemy types definitely fight each other - a lot – it happens frequently in the game, and it certainly happens with or without either group knowing you’re there. Radroaches aren’t very aggressive at all, and don’t pursue, which probably explains that behavior.
Liam’s o.k - he’s probably better in some of the voice recordings you find than in the early stuff. Malcolm McDowell is really good though. He also does a homage line to his WC4 stuff, which is fun.
Killzig
4729
He sounded rather bored as his wife died on the table.
I wonder what sort of levelling system the next ES game will have. Morrowind and Oblivion had really similar systems, yet I don’t remember them taking half the flak they took for Morrowind as they took for Oblivion.
I rather like the (idea of the) fallout style of levelling up, it would be interesting to see it applied to an Elder Scrolls game.
But,but,but, achievements mean that U R SPECIAL, U R TEH GRATESTS at what U du.
I agree that overly easy and impossible to fuck up achievements are idiotic, but, then again, that’s why I refer to them as “Console Tards” .(and so does Yahtzee) (actually I used to refer to them as Console-Monkey-Shitheads, but that is a bit long and unwieldy)
Shadari
4732
Hmm, I kinda like that. Actually, I like it a lot!
Oh, Fallout 3 thread, what won’t you do?
CMS or CMSs could actually be a great new acronym, we should put it to use immediately if not sooner.
Those are excellent and well developed points. Almost too developed, as if they were your mammaries.
Killzig
4736
For anyone who still has any doubts as to whether or not their machine is able to run the game, http://www.yougamers.com/gameometer/10291/
Zylon
4737
It said I didn’t meet the minimum requirement, even though my system was marked on the chart ABOVE the minimum requirement.
Genius!
Foxstab
4738
Actually, those guys aren’t anywhere close to NMA or monkies.
They ain’t got a care in the world for RPG or whatever and they’re evil enough to make NMA look like the choire kids.
And…forget I said anything.
goes onto hiding
Foxstab
4739
But wouldn’t you say that we would’ve come some ways since those days that in the least you wouldn’t expect to be able to rob the same shop keeper then sell his own items back to him a second later?
Shouldn’t the AI be just a tiny bit more improved than that after all these years?
Sarkus
4740
I agree, but give me an example of a game where that has happened? I honestly don’t know as I rarely go that route in RPG’s.