New Fallout 3 Info

[Staff_Sergeant]

Wait, there are schools where you go and a teacher assigns you an RPG to play?

[zengonzo]

On the Big Rock Candy Mountain …

[Bahimiron]

This game can’t come out fast enough.

My NMA friend is no longer speaking to me.

I’m hoping once the game comes out and all the good reviews blow over, he’ll forget my comparing his cult to 9/11 truthers.

[hong]

It says they refused to read the manual, so fuck 'em.

The basis of every successful business plan!

[Scotch_Lufkin]

Found an interesting interview with Desslock at Planet Fallout:
http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/articles/features/163/Interview-With-Desslock

I hadn’t heard of his “memo to Bethesda” though, pretty interesting. I gathered from his responses here he enjoyed the game, and some of his responses in this interview I was glad to read as well, in particular his take on the first person perspective being better done than he initially feared, being someone who (like myself) prefers an isometric view for his RPG’s. I guess we’ll still have Dragon Age for that though, at least! :)

[Sarkus]

Found an interesting interview with Desslock at Planet Fallout:
http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/articles/features/163/Interview-With-Desslock

I hadn’t heard of his “memo to Bethesda” though, pretty interesting. I gathered from his responses here he enjoyed the game, and some of his responses in this interview I was glad to read as well, in particular his take on the first person perspective being better done than he initially feared, being someone who (like myself) prefers an isometric view for his RPG’s. I guess we’ll still have Dragon Age for that though, at least! :)

I’ve been reading his stuff long enough to know he’s a good guy to listen to when it comes to RPG’s. My only fear about his opinions about Fallout 3 is that he sometimes is a little gushy at first, tending to make a game sound better than he may later feel. No offense intended, Desslock, but I remember him saying that the story in NWN2 OC was “the best since Torment” or something to that effect and while that may be technically true, that story has a lot of issues.

That all said, Desslock is one of the few reviewers who seems to be close to what I end up feeling about a game.

[anaqer]

Game industry moving on from the implied requirement of reading a manual to dedicated tutorial missions to ‘streamlining’ gameplay? Say it ain’t so!

[Squee]

I’ve been reading his stuff long enough to know he’s a good guy to listen to when it comes to RPG’s. My only fear about his opinions about Fallout 3 is that he sometimes is a little gushy at first, tending to make a game sound better than he may later feel. No offense intended, Desslock, but I remember him saying that the story in NWN2 OC was “the best since Torment” or something to that effect and while that may be technically true, that story has a lot of issues.

That all said, Desslock is one of the few reviewers who seems to be close to what I end up feeling about a game.

Agreed. That, and Hellgate and Oblivion which both seemed over-positive.

At least he’s played the originals though. Seems like too many people reviewing the new one haven’t.

[gordonrumble]

Game industry moving on from the implied requirement of reading a manual to dedicated tutorial missions to ‘streamlining’ gameplay? Say it ain’t so!

It isn’t entirely a bad thing though. Making games less difficult to play (which is a very different thing from challenging) will only make it easier for players to enjoy and experience.

[Mordrak]

Found an interesting interview with Desslock at Planet Fallout:
http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/articles/features/163/Interview-With-Desslock

Nice. Thanks for the link. I have to bicker a little bit with this though.

As I mentioned above, I think Bethesda really nailed their vision of the Fallout world – it’s more developed, more detailed, more plausible, and more interesting than in prior games. It’s actually quite haunting, which despite all the great qualities of the earlier games, wasn’t something that came across on those games.

The original Fallout definitely had haunting aspects, but I could see FO3’s perspective and attention to detail enhancing that aspect.

[hong]

If you found Fallout haunting, that’s because you didn’t have big enough guns.

Hong “a shortcoming admirably redressed in Fallout Tactics” Ooi

[Mordrak]

If you found Fallout haunting, that’s because you didn’t have big enough guns.

Hong “a shortcoming admirably redressed in Fallout Tactics” Ooi

Well I mentioned it earlier, but the haunting aspects had nothing to with combat. Then again, I did a lot of wandering without explicit direction. For example, I found the glow before I met the BOS.

[Chris_Nahr]

Fallout 3 considered offensive to Indians and thus cancelled in India, according to an Indian gaming website. Huh?

[MattKeil]

The original Fallout definitely had haunting aspects, but I could see FO3’s perspective and attention to detail enhancing that aspect.

I would agree with him. I think some fans of the old games will complain that there’s not as much humor in FO3. In fact, sometimes it can seem relentlessly bleak, and something horrible or heartbreaking can lie over every hill when you’re exploring. The wasteland you enter after you leave the Vault is a place utterly without hope, and the ruins of civilization have a distinctly depressing feel much of the time.

It’s really an excellent realization of a post-apocalyptic setting. It’s not as…I guess I’d say cavalier about the setting as FO and FO2, and I think it benefits from it.

[Brad_Grenz]

Fallout 3 considered offensive to Indians and thus cancelled in India, according to an Indian gaming website. Huh?

2 headed cows are sacrilegious?

[liminal]

I think the Pipboy looks great and adds a lot by keeping you in the gaming world at all times - but the F3 interface on the PC is needlessly cumbersome. It’s basically the same as Oblivion’s, where you have to go through the tab key and then click on the information tab you want - several steps slower than just hitting “I” for inventory, and “M” for map, etc., as in almost every other PC RPG. I’m really surprised Bethesda didn’t change that after Oblivion - it offers no advantages, and is just busywork.

I have encountered a crash bug which I believe is tied to the onboard sound driver (the game crashed once in a while, but infrequently) - that’s with the Realtek audio on a EVGA 680i motherboard. I’ve also encountered an SLI bug with my Nvidia 8800 GTS cards (F3 won’t enable SLI, although apparently it works fine with various other SLI setups, including with 8800 GTXes). A couple of other systems also encountered the occasional, but infrequent, crash - so there may be some driver kinks that still need to be worked out.

Thank you, Desslock, this is great stuff. One more question: my single biggest complaint about the PC version of Oblivion is the speed of the mouse cursor. It’s sluggish as hell, and there’s no way, even in the .ini file, to speed it up. No mods to fix it, either. You’d think Bethesda would know to automatically match the speed of the Windows mouse cursor, or at least let the player adjust it in game. Is Fallout 3’s mouse cursor just as sluggish as the one in Oblivion? God I hope not.

[John_Sansker]

1)It isn’t entirely a bad thing though.2) Making games less difficult to play (which is a very different thing from challenging) will only make it easier for players to enjoy and experience.

1. Yes, yes it is.
   2)No, it’ll just turn games into a massive downward spiral of suck.

See, this why I coined the term “Console Monkey Shitheads” in the first fucking place, these idiot gamers now aren’t fit to play a real game.

Fallout was too hard/deep/difficult to get into?
Are you fucking shitting me with this?

Oh how I’d love to get about a dozen of these 1334 console fucks together, stick them in a room with 1 PC and install an old school game like Bane of the Cosmic Forge and tell them, “No food or water till you escape from the castle”.
Then sit back and watch them die of dehydration.

Sample bits heard before they die;
“OMGWTF, no achievements, how am I supposed to know if I did any good?”
“Which key brings up the automap?”
“What are the cheatcodes?”
“Where’s the jump button?”

[MattKeil]

See, this why I coined the term “Console Monkey Shitheads” in the first fucking place, these idiot gamers now aren’t fit to play a real game.

I would like to direct your attention to the Far Cry 2 thread in which more than one l33t PC gamer god has gotten good and stuck on the tutorial.

[Prodigy]

1. Yes, yes it is.
   See, this why I coined the term “Console Monkey Shitheads” in the first fucking place, these idiot gamers now aren’t fit to play a real game.

I would love to see you finish Megaman 9, just to see how good your are at a fake game.

[hong]

1. Yes, yes it is.
   2)No, it’ll just turn games into a massive downward spiral of suck.

See, this why I coined the term “Console Monkey Shitheads” in the first fucking place, these idiot gamers now aren’t fit to play a real game.

Fallout was too hard/deep/difficult to get into?
Are you fucking shitting me with this?

Oh how I’d love to get about a dozen of these 1334 console fucks together, stick them in a room with 1 PC and install an old school game like Bane of the Cosmic Forge and tell them, “No food or water till you escape from the castle”.
Then sit back and watch them die of dehydration.

^ said in a high-pitched voice