My favourite is to drop one just before I back through a doorway, then shut the door. Usually they only take partial damage because they’re nearly past the mine before it blows, but if they have to stop to open a door while standing on it - ow.

Thats a good one too.

Its too bad grenades seem to have more than a few bugs or Id find them almost as fun, its fairly hard to get enemies to cluster well around a mine but a grenade into a small room?

The problems I`ve found with grenades are that

  1. Vats handles throwing them poorly, when I say poorly I mean on look that grenade I just threw landed at me feet. Any indoor throwing must be done manually

  2. The explosion damage is… odd. I can land a grenade at the feet of an enemy (VATS or realtime) and sometimes it just does no damage. It seems to happen about 25% of the time and when it does it happens repeatedly to the same guy even though grenades land in different locations.

Edit: Oh youve got to listen to the supermutants talk to each other, theyre hilarious! If you can try to overhear one saying that hes been thinking. Possibly the funniest line of dialogue Ive seen in the game yet.

  1. It should, I haven’t really messed around with the Pyromaniac perk.
  2. Yeah, there is that. You can carry 3-4 Shiskebabs around for spares/repairs for the weight of one Supersledge.
    But, if you are going the melee route, you should have a high STR rating, so carrying capacity shouldn’t be a factor.
    Though everything in the game seems to be damn heavy.

I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, since there are so many Fallout 3 threads, but the NMA Fallout 3 review is up. I haven’t read it yet myself, since I’m afraid that negativity and potential spoilers might effect the wonderful time I’m having with the game myself.

I just figured this thread was the best place to post the link.

Almost entirely agree with that review, actually. Agree with it more than any of the other reviews I’ve read anyway. Does this mean I actually am an NMA crazy?

So do I, hmmmm.

Especially the part about the world-building flaws. I think Bethesda did a fantastic job in conceptualizing and post-apocalyptic landscape and a really great job in putting the elements together in the capital wasteland. Yet the holes are there once the giant green curtain has been pulled back. Individually, they’re fantastic examples of wasteland writing, (the vault stories, Megaton’s history, the concept of Underworld and Rivet City) and on first pass through, they stand up to viewing. Upon closer scrutiny though, things start to fall apart. I blame little lamplight and the Enclave for this.

I still think Fallout 3 is a fantastic game though, in terms of what it tried to do and what successes it achieved. I do hope that the developers and whoever else are at least critical of its flaws so that they can figure out how to make a better world with whatever RPG comes next. Dragon age probably. I just wish we had a world that isn’t fantasy all the time.

No, not unless… OMG THEY’VE INFECTED ME ARRGLEee… asS… eAt sh… CoNsoLes…

But yeah I think his criticisms are valid, some of which are already being fixed by mods mind you. I hate to say it but if they listen to most of what he said the next (if there is) Fallout would be a much better game.

Does he do other reviews? I’d be interested in those, but I believe this is a one off isn’t it?

I do want to add though, that while his criticism are valid, I really don’t like the writing style. It’s fairly obvious the reviewer hates Bethesda and seems obsessed with the idea that Fallout 3 must follow in the vein of the previous fallouts. Whatever successes Fallout 3 achieves, he seems to write grudgingly. It’s NMA after all.

He reviewed Oblivion and Gothic 3 as well. Don’t remember much on the Oblivion one, but I sure as hell remember disagreeing with his Gothic 3 review. Gothic 3 drove me nuts. Guess I’ll root up some links.

Oblivion review
Gothic 3 review

Don’t know if he’s done any others. Those are the only other two I remember reading.

I disagree on his assessment of VATS

As someone who doesn’t play FPS shooters and who really likes turn-based games, I think VATS provides a good way for us non-twitch gamers to enjoy Fallout 3 without turning the combat system into a turn-based system (which would certainly break immersion). Sure it could be improved – a skip animation sequence capability would certainly be nice – but overall I think VATS works very well.

I agree, I think VATS is a huge plus (coming from someone who rather loved the FO2 turn-based design). I despise the FPS style real-time combat which doesn’t leave much for the player to enjoy. The only time I can stomach real-time combat in FO3 is during sniper/distance attacks where I can put my patience to good use during aiming. I’ve gotten some glorious critical head-shots that way.

Hey look! Actual new Fallout 3 info!

Bethesda Softworks, a ZeniMax Media company, today announced plans to make both its editor and downloadable content available for its award-winning game, Fallout 3 in the coming weeks. The official editor for Fallout 3, called the G.E.C.K. (Garden of Eden Creation Kit), will be available for free download in December and will allow Games for Windows users to create and add their own content to the game. In addition, the first official downloadable content, Operation: Anchorage, will be available exclusively for the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and Games for Windows in January, and more downloadable content coming in February and March.
“We’ve always seen the original world of Fallout 3 as a foundation for even more content. Some created by us, and a lot more created by users,” said Todd Howard, game director for Fallout 3. “It’s fun to create your own character, but it can be equally fun to create your own adventures. We can’t wait to see what the community does with the G.E.C.K.”

The release of the G.E.C.K. provides the community with tools that will allow players to expand the game any way they wish. Users can create, modify, and edit any data for use with Fallout 3, from building landscapes, towns, and locations to writing dialogue, creating characters, weapons, creatures, and more.

Three downloadable content packs will be coming to Xbox 360 and Games for Windows Live starting in January that will add new quests, items, and content to Fallout 3.

Operation: Anchorage: Enter a military simulation and fight in one of the greatest battles of the Fallout universe – the liberation of Anchorage, Alaska from its Chinese Communist invaders. An action-packed battle scheduled for release in January.

The Pitt: Journey to the industrial raider town called The Pitt, located in the remains of Pittsburgh. Choose your side. Scheduled for release in February.

Broken Steel: Join the ranks of the Brotherhood of Steel and rid the Capital Wasteland of the Enclave remnants once and for all. Continues the adventure past the main quest. Scheduled for release in March.
Think Knights of the Nine for size

Was Knights of the Nine big?

I wonder if we’ll have to roll new characters if we’ve beaten the game (a la the Mass Effect DLC) to play the new content.

It was a large side quest in size.

Excellent news.

Knights was okay.

Shivering Isles was awesome.

Shivering Isles was so much better than Oblivion itself in every way. Story, look, characters, the fun abilities you could get.

Edit: What I’m trying to say here is that there should be a portal to the Shivering Isles.

Fuck yeah, content editor. Calling it the G.E.C.K. is pretty awesome, by the way.

Now I just need to wait a year for the game and its DLC to be bundled, and I’ll buy it for PC and download the FO3 equivalent of POOP.

Wow, that’s interesting. If you can continue past the main quest in Broken Steel, does that mean your character doesn’t really die?

And the G.E.C.K. - great news. We can finally rid ourselves of the level cap without it breaking the game.

I’ll second the fuck yeah on the content editor. Some awesome stuff is gonna come out of that.

one thing that has always hooked me in the fallout 3 universe is the thoughts and wondering about what is happening in other parts of the world. i’d pay good money to explore a fallout 3 japan, or europe

Yes. I like the reconstruction aspects, too. Building out of the ashes.

I’d like to see people continue with that theme.