Sarkus
1641
You just HAD to open this door, didn’t you.
Now we’ll have to listen to how great it would have been if Troika had gotten the franchise, etc., etc.
I think it would have been far more complicated had a development house proven utterly incapable of finishing a game or fixing it’s numerous bugs been given a franchise as important as Fallout (but I gather that may have been your point!)
nlanza
1645
You kind of have to start by assuming an alternate universe where Troika’s games were the beautiful old-school masterpieces they intended them to be instead of the buggy barely-playable messes they actually turned out to be.
It goes on from there.
I’m not going to wade into that pool.
But why do you suppose the Fallout-styled game, arguably very popular, isn’t being done in its pure form these days?
I don’t mean to trivialize the development process, but considering the relative gains that have been made in development environments, I’m surprised there aren’t more independent efforts to update extremely successful game models of old. Fallout, XCOM, etc.
I have a feeling I’m wading into a pool in any case … I just miss the mechanics, honestly. I wish they’d caught on as much as the RTS and FPS genres.
Equis
1647
For all those people talking about how bland and lifeless Bethesda might take the fallout franchise in, we can only hope they release the proper modding toolkit. Bethesda is great at creating the world, (and then the assets in which better writers can take a crack at creating their own versions.)
Sure it may suck waiting for some talented obscure gaming writer to get off his ass and make a worthwhile mod with memorable characters. But it can happen. (NWN had tons of those.)
And if Fallout seems to be inspiring that much fervent support, someone will attempt it. I can only look forward to NMA’s hilarious attempts at capturing the original Fallout flavour through their talented writing skills.
I suspect all the villains will come from Maryland and be named Beth-Something-or-other.
I have spent some time reading Codex recently (bought some Infinity Engine games and was looking for info), and NMA, and its like these guys have this idea in their head that they are a lone stronghold of skepticism, desperately trying to convince the world using their arguments of reason and erudition, but alas! It is of no use! The entire world will eat up this game no matter what because its been decided Oblivion is the best game ever and everyone who isn’t on the forum heard that Fallout was good from someone on the forum and as such wants the new one instead of that crusty old 2D.
What a weird state of mind. Especially since the dominant opinion towards Fallout 3 from what I have seen on the internets is cautious optimism. Which is not a totally unreasonable opinion to have.
At least subconsciously, they know full well that FO3 is probably going to be well reviewed and will outsell all its predecessors combined. The attitude you describe is how they will justify these facts and maintain their righteous hatred of the game.
They remind me of Hillaryis44
zealots are a sad lot
More of this kind of “new” poster, less of the crackpot type, please.
I dunno. I’ll miss Iorek a little, that was a special kind of crazyfuckbrain. I doubt there’s going to be a shortage, though. I’ve only been here for 9 months and just now feel like I’m hitting the stride of things here at QT3. No doubt we’ll have more people calling us smarmy groupthinkers who won’t fight the power!
I also truly hope such an archetype ends up in Fallout 3. Someone who steals Pip-Boy programs, and then defends it by saying the fact you have to own the program to use it or that you have to have a Pip-Boy is screwing the consumer.
Don’t worry, Zeke, you’ll always have Draikin. That’s the kind of stupid that won’t go away.
Barely playable is pushing it…yet, all three games are definitely worth playing if you consider yourself a fan of CRPGs.
Arcanum’s world, ToEE’s combat, Bloodlines’ dialogs ----> Great.
Arcanum’s combat, ToEE’s non-combat, Bloodlines’ 3rd Act----> Shit.
Flawed gems.
If only they had made a game with all three.
sigh
In defense of Troika, they never were the kind of developer who could choose when to release their game, it was always when the publisher said it so, not when it’s done.
Yeah, I was playing Arcanum recently, and it’s odd how regular the crashes were. It got to the point where I’d play for an hour and a half, save, wander around for five minutes, and then the game would crash. Piece of shit is consistent. I also had that old favorite bug of mine, where if you run while clicking something else at the wrong time you end up running off the screen and can get caught in walls. Fun!
That replay ended with me deciding that, really, gnomes are ugly and need to die. Being the enterprising female half orc* mage that I, uh, was, I started the orc riots in Tarant and spend the next half hour disintegrating everything I could find.
*For whatever reason, female half-orcs have the best stats for playing as a mage. Couple their base stats with the only child background and you have a monstrously munchkinned character that can kill everything it sees in one shot.
In conclusion, anyone who wants to put their “baby” in the hands of Troika is snorting horse tranquilizers. They wrote fun stories, but they couldn’t code for crap and their idea of balance is just loltastically off base. They’d shake it to death faster than a British nanny.
I’m saying an Interplay run by Herve Caen shouldn’t be looked at as a positive by anyone, save for maybe Herve Caen. That’s all.
