The specter with the axe in the basement got me.
You don’t recall correctly.
AAAHHHH that’s right. I just remembered what happens at the end. Bill’s right, you’re wrong. The ending was very styley.
Wobbo
1703
In general, all of the combat areas in Bloodlines were terrible. As great as that game was, it had the worst level design I’ve ever seen in an action/RPG hybrid. Most maps play as if an amateur from the mod community for Half-life 2 made them. Fortunately the rest of the game was more than good enough to make up for it. People often compare it to Deus Ex, but in terms of map layout and realism in the environments Deus Ex is light-years ahead.
But yes, the Ocean House quest is exquisitely terrifying.
thamer
1704
Not sure about the man’s sanity but the “pure” patch is a gift from heaven. Seriously, the other “fan” patches felt more like total remixes than a patch to fix bugs.
In any case you can get the “pure” patch still by just following the link from the game’s wikipedia page. I played with it and it felt like VTM with bug fixes and not a total rebalance of the game.
It’s funny because whenever anyone asked if the other patch maintainer would just release fixes alone in a single patch they’d get shouted down for not appreciating how magnificent his butchering of the game is.
I’d hate to get into some kind of nerd-off with you, but Deus Ex had awful, ugly architecture. Big blocky blocks of buildings just sort of plopped down (particularly Paris, IIRC). VTM wasn’t amazing, but I’d still put it well ahead of that.
Around 9.58 is the sort of stuff I mean. It’s clearly different from what I remember, though - which involved a room with a broken floor and a bit more of that stuff. What I see in this video is much more anti-climactic than my memory.
available exclusively at Amazon (take that, gamestop!) and, reading the comments on the blog, it appears to be US only.
Want! Want now!
I would flip the fuck out if the Pip Boy had some reasonable level of processing power, honestly. Just enough for people to make it display text, or falling bomb screensavers.
Apparently it will be more than just a digital clock, but nothing has been detailed regarding what else it will be able to do.
Moore
1710
Carve that shit out and pop a gutted PDA in there.
Aside from WoW, that’s the first collector’s edition of anything that I’ve wanted in ages.
Qenan
1712
Holy Moley! A special edition I actually want. That’s a first.
Maybe not enough to buy it, but still.
It’s funny that when you put Fallout shit on a lunch box, it makes me want that lunch box, even though I can be guaranteed never to use that lunch box.
Yeah I don’t get it either. Woohoo a lunchbox and an alarm clock! Now I’ll be at work on time and everyone there can see my awesome new food container!
Just, please, for the sake of your coworkers, try to not make out with the action figure thing while on your lunch break.
I’m not saying NMA is a rational group of fans, I’m saying that they shouldn’t be completely ignored. I have no problem with less overt humour, but it does seem strange that for a series which has put so much emphasis on black humour in the past it has barely been discussed (except in a quote by Pete Hines mentioning that they were attempting to create humour through a dissonance between the current post-apocalyptic landscape and the frequent reminders of the world-of-tomorrow utopian past, which frankly doesn’t sound that amusing). Instead, talk has been cycling about the ‘fat man’ and how cool it is to have a tactical nuclear launcher, and how you can kill the dumb mutants all day long (despite the backstory of them as intelligent creatures in previous Fallout titles).
Also, while i agree that the use of the term ‘political incorrectness’ was less than ideal, it serves the purpose and illustrated my point. I spent some small amount of thought attempting to figure out a better phrase for it, and came up empty. It has entered into the pop culture lexicon, and its definition is clearly understood. I don’t understand what is stupid about discussing the fallout humour as being in the past deliberately outside of acceptable social norms.
I’d appreciate not being called a moron; while i understand that the internet is a place for people to spew their opinions at each other (all type and no read, by the way), this is one that I’d prefer you keep to yourself.
Hudson
1717
I spent some small amount of thought attempting to figure out a better phrase for it, and came up empty.
Really? It took me like 3 seconds to call it low-brow. I also would’ve accepted “edgy”. Politically incorrect humor is joking about how Asian women are bad drivers. The gag about being a fluffer? It’s just a dirty joke.
Oh, and just to really make it clear how badly you missed the point of Fallout, “dissonance between the current post-apocalyptic landscape and the frequent reminders of the world-of-tomorrow utopian past” is a pretty good description of the humor that was in Fallout 1.
I know, it’s not a quote from a Quentin Taratino movie or a joke about Mike Tyson, but Fallout 1 had a really subtle, wry, almost subversive sense of humor that permeated not just the gameplay, it extended into the interface(Pip Boy) and the manual.
I’d appreciate not being called a moron
Yeah, and I’d appreciate not having to read whining that Pete Hines hasn’t talked enough about whatever retarded issue-of-the-moment NMA has their collective panties in a bunch about this week. It’s not like him saying that he was throwing in twice as many Star Wars references would placate you.
Looks like nobody wins this round, Gordo.
Sarkus
1718
I think you both need to relax a bit. As I noted in my earlier response to Gordonrumble’s comment about humor, there is a complete lack of information about what kind and type of humor Fallout 3 contains. Arguing about it seems like big waste of time.
And I don’t think we need to equate everyone who has a strong view as being part of the NMA crowd. The difference between NMA and everyone else is that NMA has already decided they don’t like the game while the rest of us are openminded enough to realize a good game in a series doesn’t have to be exactly like its predecessors that came out 10 years ago.
While pop-culture references did appear frequently in Fallout 2, they weren’t the backbone of its humour.
Also, the game series has made ‘humourous’ references about adultery, killing children, racism, drug use, slavery, murder, etc, etc. A ‘politically correct’ joke is not a dirty joke, and certainly does not involve those issues. Low brow humour is not politically correct.
I really don’t think you understand my viewpoint. I loved oblivion, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy this game even if it’s completely different from the other titles. Using the fallout name, however, brings up a lot of nostalgia, and I’m not sure whether or not to expect this game to build off the strengths of the previous entries in the series or to go its own route. As I enjoyed the unique atmosphere that previous entries provided, it’s reasonable to want more of it. It could do without the pop culture references, but there has been a lack of information on what I would consider key aspects of past series entries, and I’m vaguely concerned that that means that they aren’t being considered when making the game. Fallout without humour would be like Ratchet and Clank without guns.
If you want to tell me I’m stupid, bitch at me for not having the same opinion as yourself, not experiencing the previous games just like you did, and having the crazy idea that jokes about slaves are not politically correct, do it over PM. This is turning from a debate into an argument.
thamer
1720
Fallout 3 better not be another Oblivion: 10,000 modeled objects by an army of monkeys typing on a keyboard and two voice actors with stupid mini-games for dialog trees.
I’ll speel my dreenk all over your lunch boxes.
