NFL Week 14

Man, I can’t pick Thursday night games to save my life.

Pittsburgh is just… wow. I don’t know what else to say.

— Alan

Props to Robert Sharp for picking the Browns!

PRELIM WEEK 14 RESULTS

 1.      Robert Sharp  1-0   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS DAL PHI ARI

 2.            Adam B  0-0
 2.        Balasarius  0-0
 2.        BostonBum0  0-0
 2.            Buceph  0-0
 2.           Crispus  0-0
 2.            Greedo  0-0
 2.        Jon_Danger  0-0
 2.            Kraaze  0-0
 2.      Matt Perkins  0-0
 2.     Mean Dr. Lily  0-0
 2.           *Rimbot  0-0
 2.            robsam  0-0
 2.           sinfony  0-0
 2.     SolomonGrundy  0-0
 2.             Xeorn  0-0
 2.             Xeras  0-0

18.       Alan Dunkin  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU DEN  NE CIN BUF MIA  TB TEN OAK DAL PHI ARI
18.             AlanC  0-1   NO BAL CHI HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
18.             balut  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD NYG  SF
18.      BennyProfane  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK DAL PHI ARI
18.   Bill Dungsroman  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.     BlueJackalope  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN OAK DAL NYG ARI
18.          ColonelT  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.             Cubit  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.      Dave Perkins  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
18.       Guido Jones  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.          Hanacker  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND CAR CIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
18.             jeffd  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
18.         Juan Rayo  0-1   NO BAL CHI HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC  TB TEN WAS  SD NYG ARI
18.      Kid Socrates  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
18.            Lorini  0-1
18.          Mr_PeaCH  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.           MrFrump  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.            NatCox  0-1   NO BAL CHI SEA IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS DAL PHI ARI
18.           nixon66  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC  TB TEN OAK  SD NYG ARI
18.     Not One Of Us  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC  TB TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.          Omniscia  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
18.            Ryan A  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC JAC  TB TEN OAK DAL NYG ARI
18.            Sarkus  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC  TB TEN OAK DAL NYG ARI
18.            ScubaV  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE CIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.     seventimessix  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC  TB TEN WAS DAL NYG ARI
18.           Shadarr  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.            Shmtur  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.     Slainte Mhath  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD NYG ARI
18.            sluggo  0-1
18.          Talisker  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18. Troy S Goodfellow  0-1   NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN WAS DAL PHI ARI
18.             Wader  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC  TB TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
18.       Wallapuctus  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
18.            Yaltan  0-1   NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD NYG ARI

PRELIM WEEK 14 SEASON TOTALS

 1.            Lorini 138-55  (72%)

 2.          Talisker 136-57  (70%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI

 3.            Adam B 134-57  (70%)

 4.             AlanC 134-59  (69%)  NO BAL CHI HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI

 5.     Slainte Mhath 133-59  (69%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD NYG ARI

 6.             balut 133-60  (69%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD NYG  SF

 7.           nixon66 132-61  (68%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC  TB TEN OAK  SD NYG ARI

 8.            Sarkus 131-62  (68%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC  TB TEN OAK DAL NYG ARI
 8.            Shmtur 131-62  (68%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI

10.       Guido Jones 130-63  (67%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI

11.      BennyProfane 129-64  (67%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK DAL PHI ARI
11.   Bill Dungsroman 129-64  (67%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
11.      Robert Sharp 129-64  (67%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS DAL PHI ARI
11.             Wader 129-64  (67%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC  TB TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI

15.           MrFrump 128-64  (67%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI

16.            ScubaV 126-66  (66%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE CIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI

17.      Dave Perkins 126-67  (65%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI

18.     BlueJackalope 125-68  (65%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN OAK DAL NYG ARI

19.            NatCox 124-67  (65%)  NO BAL CHI SEA IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS DAL PHI ARI

20.          ColonelT 124-69  (64%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
20.       Wallapuctus 124-69  (64%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
20.            Yaltan 124-69  (64%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD NYG ARI

23.       Alan Dunkin 123-70  (64%)  NO BAL  GB HOU DEN  NE CIN BUF MIA  TB TEN OAK DAL PHI ARI
23.      Kid Socrates 123-70  (64%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
23.          Omniscia 123-70  (64%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI
23.            Ryan A 123-70  (64%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC JAC  TB TEN OAK DAL NYG ARI

27. Troy S Goodfellow 121-72  (63%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND  NE MIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN WAS DAL PHI ARI

28.            sluggo 120-56  (68%)

29.           *Rimbot 120-72  (63%)

30.             Cubit 120-73  (62%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN  KC JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
30.         Juan Rayo 120-73  (62%)  NO BAL CHI HOU IND  NE MIN  KC JAC  TB TEN WAS  SD NYG ARI
30.     Not One Of Us 120-73  (62%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC  TB TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI
30.     seventimessix 120-73  (62%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC  TB TEN WAS DAL NYG ARI

34.          Hanacker 119-73  (62%)  NO BAL  GB SEA IND CAR CIN  KC MIA NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI

35.           Shadarr 119-74  (62%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE CIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI

36.             jeffd 109-55  (66%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN WAS  SD PHI ARI

37.          Mr_PeaCH 109-56  (66%)  NO BAL  GB HOU IND  NE MIN BUF MIA NYJ TEN OAK  SD PHI ARI

38.     Mean Dr. Lily 100-59  (63%)

39.      Matt Perkins  94-39  (71%)

40.            Kraaze  89-55  (62%)

41.            robsam  79-45  (64%)

42.        Jon_Danger  69-34  (67%)

43.           Crispus  65-32  (67%)

44.        BostonBum0  54-35  (61%)

45.            Greedo  50-40  (56%)

46.             Xeorn  45-29  (61%)

47.        Balasarius  33-15  (69%)

48.     SolomonGrundy  27-19  (59%)

49.            Buceph  19-13  (59%)

50.             Xeras  14-2   (88%)

51.           sinfony  11-5   (69%)

PEOPLE WITH WRONG # OF PICKS:

Lorini (1)
sluggo (1)

# of picks per team:

PIT 34 @ CLE 1
(CLE: Robert Sharp)

NO 33 @ ATL 0

DET 0 @ BAL 33

GB 30 @ CHI 3
(CHI: AlanC, Juan Rayo, NatCox)

SEA 9 @ HOU 24

DEN 1 @ IND 32
(DEN: Alan Dunkin)

CAR 1 @ NE 32
(CAR: Hanacker)

CIN 12 @ MIN 21

BUF 20 @ KC 13

MIA 15 @ JAC 18

NYJ 25 @ TB 8

STL 0 @ TEN 33

WAS 14 @ OAK 19

SD 24 @ DAL 9

PHI 24 @ NYG 9

ARI 32 @ SF 1
(SF: balut)

QT3 consensus:
PIT NO BAL GB HOU IND NE MIN BUF JAC NYJ TEN OAK SD PHI ARI

Maverick ratings:
6: Hanacker
5: Alan Dunkin, Juan Rayo, NatCox, Robert Sharp, Ryan A, seventimessix
4: balut, BlueJackalope, Sarkus, Slainte Mhath, Troy S Goodfellow
3: AlanC, Bill Dungsroman, ScubaV, Shmtur, Yaltan
2: BennyProfane, ColonelT, Cubit, Dave Perkins, Kid Socrates, MrFrump, nixon66, Not One Of Us, Omniscia, Wader
1: Guido Jones, jeffd, Mr_PeaCH, Shadarr, Talisker
0: Lorini, sluggo, Wallapuctus

No picks entered: *Rimbot; Adam B; Balasarius; BostonBum0; Buceph; Crispus; Greedo; Jon_Danger; Kraaze; Matt Perkins; Mean Dr. Lily; robsam; sinfony; SolomonGrundy; Xeorn; Xeras

All hail Robert Sharp!!! Jeezus, maybe the Steelers need to play my high school team down the street. That could give them a win!!

I will say this much, I am uneasy with Talisker’s decision not to show no picks as losses because it rewards not making a decision. ESPN Pigskin Pickem definitely counts a no decision as a loss, as does any other game like this. I would like to see this changed so that people aren’t encouraged to just not pick on the harder picks.

I am not sure I agree with you, Lorini…

Take the extreme example, Xeras, who went 14-2 his first week, and never picked again. Because the list is ranked by total wins first, not picking will always leave you lower than someone who was 50/50 every week. Yes, he has an 88% pick percentage, but we dont rank on that.

Now, this week so far in the overalls, we see Adam B (who didnt pick) and AlanC who did (incorrectly) with the same number of correct picks, but Adam is higher because of a lower number of wrong picks. It is true that if you gave Adam a wrong pick, you would have lowered his score, but the fact is that if he continues to not pick, given the number of upsets in an average NFL week, shouldnt a 50/50 person eventually push over his win total and push him down the list?

I guess what I am trying to say is that in our current ranking system, its never in your advantage not to pick, because 1. You could always pick the close game correctly and improve your first level ranking, or 2. you will only lose ground on the secondary rankings, and its really easy to see skipped picks at that level.

Actually, it might be possible to solve the optimal strategy mathematically here. Divide the 16 games a week into “obvious” and “non-obvious” picks. Assume you get 100% of the obvious games right, and are only 50% correct on the non-obvious games. (Given that every single person is better than .500 in picking, I think the actual ability to pick may be higher than that.)

So if you make all your obvious picks, is it worth it to make close call picks, given that you get them right 50% of the time? I would say the ranking systems emphasis on wins over percentage makes that a yes.

This is the third year that we’ve been doing this that I’ve been involved in and the decision to ignore non-picks was made early on. If it comes down to a situation where someone who didn’t pick every game ends up #1 overall or if we see a pattern where somebody seems to “forgetting” on a regular basis, then we can revisit the issue. However, all we’re playing for here is pride. If you want to get worked up, then we might as well debate Rimbo’s use of the Rimbot again as well.

What happened to them? It looked like Big Ben had no one to throw to most of the time. No one was getting open.

Pittsburgh’s defense played well for the most part. They basically gave up 10 points.

Anyway, looks like Pittsburgh is out. I’d rather see some new blood in the playoffs anyway.

aww fucking hell

Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Atlanta
Detroit at Baltimore
Denver at Indianapolis
Seattle at Houston
N.Y. Jets at Tampa Bay
Carolina at New England
Miami at Jacksonville
Buffalo at Kansas City
Cincinnati at Minnesota
St. Louis at Tennessee
Washington at Oakland
San Diego at Dallas
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants
Arizona at San Francisco

can i argue that i should have my pick for yesterday count given that I would’ve picked it anyway?

because the rimbot is doing SUCH a great job

I suspect Pittsburg desperately needs the run to open the pass. Without a valid run threat the receivers aren’t good enough to get open. In years past their balance kept the pass defense a little more on edge.

Just to be clear, I wasn’t advocating that we revisit that debate. Much like the issue of what to do when people miss picks, it’s something that shouldn’t be an issue anymore.

:-)

I picked the Browns because I thought Pitt looked like crap against Oakland and KC and showed some real vulnerabilities. The Browns are actually playing better on defense, and I thought that would give them a shot, especially at home. Still, I’ll admit I’m suprised that I turned out to be right.

Excuse me for not being involved in this three years ago. It just doesn’t make sense to me from a game point of view. The numbers may indeed work out, but it doesn’t feel right.

I know what you mean. Really, though the contest is based on who gets the most wins. The percentage is added for data, but it isn’t the goal. Still, I see your point.

Main reason to leave off non-picks, and for listing the percentage, is to encourage people to keep playing even if they miss a pick or a week or three, or to join in partway through the season – percentage is a different yardstick you can use to compare your performance against everyone else.

Also: it’s not like it’s a secret; if people want to try and game things by skipping picks altogether, it’s certainly allowed. You’ll notice nobody actually does that, though, as it doesn’t actually confer any real advantage whatsoever.

My goal since about week 3 or 4 has been to somehow climb may way up into the top 10. I’m SOOOO close! But there are only a few weeks left. Will I make it?

My goal has been to make it to 70% before year’s end. I’m thinking I’m not going to make it, though.

That makes sense Talisker, thanks.