Haha Nintendo missing an opportunity to double or triple (or more) charge people for content they already bought that takes minimal effort to make work for them? That is a laugh. Good luck with that.

Did they get something wrong recently?

(I’m being mischievous.)

Well, the 3DS is still bullshit region locked for some reason. But they at least learned and made the Switch unlocked.

They got one thing wrong, still can’t find a system. Sold out everywhere unless you want to over pay on EBay.

But I guess it’s different if I have to pay another $15 for a PS2 game I already bought on PSN because they added trophies for the PS4 version, right? And I should be happy they give me the option of paying $20 a month to play streamed copies of PS3 games I already bought on PSN? After all, it’s not Nintendo doing it, so it must be fine.

Uh, what? People are pissed about the PS2 classics having to be repurchased (though those actually go on sale quite often so it’s slightly less terrible) and generally think Now is a poor value.

I have never seen remotely the degree of hatred for PS2 classics on PS4 or PSNow as I have for Nintendo selling NES games for five dollars each.

I don’t get what you are trying to argue about here.

I kind of don’t like that the PS1 games I bought on PS3 don’t work on PS4, but the difference is that I can still boot up my PS3 and play games on it. The Wii is pointless to have out now, as they made wii titles backwards compatible. This is not the case PS3 to PS4, so if I can use my Wii discs on my Wii U, why do I have to re-buy Wii VC titles to use on the Wii U? That doesn’t make sense. There isn’t the same disconnect PS3 to PS4, as there is 0 backwards compatibility.

The Wii to Wii U feels worse, because it is inconsistent. And we are talking about sub 100 mb roms here, not entire DVD-sized PS2 games. These are easy, and they have been porting them to VC for years. A lot of the PS1/PS2 classics prices are determined by the third party, not sony. Nintendo owns and controls the majority of titles on VC (specifically Wii U VC) so it is easier to blame Nintendo.

Square is also really shitty when it comes to re-releases of old titles. Want FFIII on your phone? 20 bucks please. Also, this version is broken and has no support.

Nintendo is bad because of how inconsistent it is, and that is exacerbated by the fact that they have control over an extremely large pool of titles that are 20-30 years old.

So…because the Wii U lets you play Wii games inside a wrapper, it should let you play Wii VC games outside of that wrapper? And Nintendo’s bad because the Wii U has native Wii BC and the PS4 doesn’t have native PS3 BC?

I’m with you. @JonRowe has gone crazy.

Sony is definitely the worst of the 3 consoles as far as backwards compatibility.

But hey, Microsoft has shown the way. If you owned a copy on the 360, and they add the title to backwards compatibility list, it shows up as an owned title that you can install. You don’t have to buy it again.

Yeah, with everything else being roughly equal (only one or two exclusives I care about per system, and roughly similar specs and prices), I’d be far more likely to buy an Xbox One than a PS4, solely on the strength of being able to stash away my Xbox 360.

Well, I think you missed the [quote=“JonRowe, post:1875, topic:126573”]
I kind of don’t like that the PS1 games I bought on PS3 don’t work on PS4,
[/quote]

I think it isn’t great. But I think Nintendo gets so much more crap because they have a huge library of first party titles, and they inconsistently apply the backwards compatibility.

Want SNES games on the go? Better buy the new 3DS!

It is just so inconsistent across platforms and things. Where as Sony is like, we don’t do BC, so people don’t expect it, so people don’t complain.

Nintendo has done a lot of VC inconsistently, so people’s expectations are all over the place.

Which is weird because we’re they the first to do backward really, PS2 to PS1. There were some issues but Nintendo was never one to get on the backward compatibility wagon. I think Nintendo got some bad flack because their sales on the digital store front for 20 year old games were a joke, if they existed at all.

Hey cmon, the Gameboy Color played Gameboy games.

And the Game Boy Advance could play Game Boy and Game Boy Color games. Nintendo had 15 years of backwards compatibility baked into the GBA.

Yeah but that was after the PS2.

I am not sure why you are equating me saying I thought Sony kind of pushed the backward compatibility we saw in consoles, for awhile, as somehow a knock against Nintendo. It’s not. It’s simply what i remember. It was a big deal for the PS2 to do that.

I’m not sure what I’m arguing, really. I think that Nintendo (via the Game Boy line, and the Wii-WiiU compatibility) and Sony (remember that the first PS3 SKU played both PS2 and PS1 games) both had really fantastic backwards compatibility strategies that have since fallen away.

Yeah so for @Rock8man to say Sony is the worst of the three, that seems odd today considering where they were in that regard. As in it boggles the mind a bit… not why, mind you, but that might be the opinion today.

The PS3 losing PS2 BC was significantly worse than any of the historical examples for Nintendo platforms’ revisions removing BC, since the PS3 lost it after only a year on the market as a cost-cutting measure, and new PS2 games were still actively being released at the time (and not just the usual annual sports sims and movie-licensed titles - the acclaimed Persona 4 wasn’t released until 2008, for example).