Not Freaked Out Yet? Let's Fix That (Bush and Iran)

The Bush administration has authorized the U.S. military to kill or capture Iranian operatives inside Iraq as part of an aggressive new strategy to weaken Tehran’s influence across the Middle East and compel it to give up its nuclear program, according to government and counterterrorism officials with direct knowledge of the effort.

For more than a year, U.S. forces in Iraq have secretly detained dozens of suspected Iranian agents, holding them for three to four days at a time. The “catch and release” policy was designed to avoid escalating tensions with Iran and yet intimidate its emissaries. U.S. forces collected DNA samples from some of the Iranians without their knowledge, subjected others to retina scans, and fingerprinted and photographed all of them before letting them go.

Last summer, however, senior administration officials decided that a more confrontational approach was necessary, as Iran’s regional influence grew and U.S. efforts to isolate Tehran appeared to be failing. The country’s nuclear work was advancing, U.S. allies were resisting robust sanctions against the Tehran government, and Iran was aggravating sectarian violence in Iraq.

My favorite “He who smelt it, dealt it” quote:

“Iran seems to be conducting a foreign policy with a sense of dangerous triumphalism,” Hayden said.

The administration’s plans contain five “theaters of interest,” as one senior official put it, with military, intelligence, political and diplomatic strategies designed to target Iranian interests across the Middle East.

The White House has authorized a widening of what is known inside the intelligence community as the “Blue Game Matrix” – a list of approved operations that can be carried out against the Iranian-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon. And U.S. officials are preparing international sanctions against Tehran for holding several dozen al-Qaeda fighters who fled across the Afghan border in late 2001. They plan more aggressive moves to disrupt Tehran’s funding of the radical Palestinian group Hamas and to undermine Iranian interests among Shiites in western Afghanistan.

The wide-ranging plan has several influential skeptics in the intelligence community, at the State Department and at the Defense Department who said that they worry it could push the growing conflict between Tehran and Washington into the center of a chaotic Iraq war.

Senior administration officials said the policy is based on the theory that Tehran will back down from its nuclear ambitions if the United States hits it hard in Iraq and elsewhere, creating a sense of vulnerability among Iranian leaders. But if Iran responds with escalation, it has the means to put U.S. citizens and national interests at greater risk in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Officials said Hayden counseled the president and his advisers to consider a list of potential consequences, including the possibility that the Iranians might seek to retaliate by kidnapping or killing U.S. personnel in Iraq.

Two officials said that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, though a supporter of the strategy, is concerned about the potential for errors, as well as the ramifications of a military confrontation between U.S. and Iranian troops on the Iraqi battlefield.

In meetings with Bush’s other senior advisers, officials said, Rice insisted that the defense secretary appoint a senior official to personally oversee the program to prevent it from expanding into a full-scale conflict. Rice got the oversight guarantees she sought, though it remains unclear whether senior Pentagon officials must approve targets on a case-by-case basis or whether the oversight is more general.

Advocates of the new policy – some of whom are in the NSC, the vice president’s office, the Pentagon and the State Department – said that only direct and aggressive efforts can shatter Iran’s growing influence. A less confident Iran, with fewer cards, may be more willing to cut the kind of deal the Bush administration is hoping for on its nuclear program. “The Iranians respond to the international community only when they are under pressure, not when they are feeling strong,” one official said.

With aspects of the plan also targeting Iran’s influence in Lebanon, Afghanistan and the Palestinian territories, the policy goes beyond the threats Bush issued earlier this month to “interrupt the flow of support from Iran and Syria” into Iraq.

The decision to use lethal force against Iranians inside Iraq began taking shape last summer, when Israel was at war with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Officials said a group of senior Bush administration officials who regularly attend the highest-level counterterrorism meetings agreed that the conflict provided an opening to portray Iran as a nuclear-ambitious link between al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and the death squads in Iraq.

And here’s the “didn’t I already see this movie” moment:

Among those involved in the discussions, beginning in August, were deputy national security adviser Elliott Abrams, NSC counterterrorism adviser Juan Zarate, the head of the CIA’s counterterrorism center, representatives from the Pentagon and the vice president’s office, and outgoing State Department counterterrorism chief Henry A. Crumpton.

At the time, Bush publicly emphasized diplomacy as his preferred path for dealing with Iran. Standing before the U.N. General Assembly in New York on Sept. 19, Bush spoke directly to the Iranian people: “We look to the day when you can live in freedom, and America and Iran can be good friends and close partners in the cause of peace.”

Two weeks later, Crumpton flew from Washington to U.S. Central Command headquarters in Tampa for a meeting with Gen. John P. Abizaid, the top U.S. commander for the Middle East. A principal reason for the visit, according to two officials with direct knowledge of the discussion, was to press Abizaid to prepare for an aggressive campaign against Iranian intelligence and military operatives inside Iraq.

Information gleaned through the “catch and release” policy expanded what was once a limited intelligence community database on Iranians in Iraq. It also helped to avert a crisis between the United States and the Iraqi government over whether U.S. troops should be holding Iranians, several officials said, and dampened the possibility of Iranians directly targeting U.S. personnel in retaliation.

But senior officials saw it as too timid.

“We were making no traction” with “catch and release,” a senior counterterrorism official said in a recent interview, explaining that it had failed to halt Iranian activities in Iraq or worry the Tehran leadership. “Our goal is to change the dynamic with the Iranians, to change the way the Iranians perceive us and perceive themselves. They need to understand that they cannot be a party to endangering U.S. soldiers’ lives and American interests, as they have before. That is going to end.”

[i]A senior intelligence officer was more wary of the ambitions of the strategy.

“This has little to do with Iraq. It’s all about pushing Iran’s buttons. It is purely political,” the official said. The official expressed similar views about other new efforts aimed at Iran, suggesting that the United States is escalating toward an unnecessary conflict to shift attention away from Iraq and to blame Iran for the United States’ increasing inability to stanch the violence there.[/i]

But some officials within the Bush administration say that targeting Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Command, and specifically a Guard unit known as the Quds Force, should be as much a priority as fighting al-Qaeda in Iraq. The Quds Force is considered by Western intelligence to be directed by Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to support Iraqi militias, Hamas and Hezbollah.

In interviews, two senior administration officials separately compared the Tehran government to the Nazis and the Guard to the “SS.” They also referred to Guard members as “terrorists.” Such a formal designation could turn Iran’s military into a target of what Bush calls a “war on terror,” with its members potentially held as enemy combatants or in secret CIA detention.

Asked whether such a designation is imminent, Johndroe of the NSC said in a written response that the administration has “long been concerned about the activities of the IRGC and its components throughout the Middle East and beyond.” He added: “The Iranian Revolutionary Guards Quds Force is a part of the Iranian state apparatus that supports and carries out these activities.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/25/AR2007012502199.html

I think Bush would dearly love to go do bad things to Iran. I also think his advisers are also going to warn him that he can’t. He’s getting too much backlash as it is about his Iraqi troop surge. Congress will slash military funding to the bone to force foreign troop reductions if he tries to add an Iranian conflict to our already overfull plate.

I’d like to believe that but something in me thinks there’s a Rove pulling strings too and he’s thinking about his legacy. If Iraq’s doomed they may as well go double or nothing. Our guys getting attacked by a real army (provoked by us, of course) would definitely get people sitting up in their chairs. Hell, it’s like Katrina. You want to cuss out the assholes who are screwing everything up but - not right now, right now we have an emergency and we need to do everything we can to protect our people who are in harm’s way. Even if that means paving over Tehran and letting Bush/Rove/Cheney slip out of our grasp in the confusion.

What’s Congress going to do when Republican Guard divisions come over the border and threaten our ground based lines of communication (Baghdad to Kuwait)? Complain? They’re going to have to suck it up, once more, and line up behind the Commander-In-Chief.

As for the aftermath? Well, that’s the next President’s problem. This one will have a half-billion dollar, Saudi funded, presidential library to look after.

Somehow it’s hard for me to remain sanguine when I think about who we’ve got running this country and what they’ve already shown themselves capable of.

You think the Republican Guard can realistically perform military operations outside Iran? If push came to shove I’m sure they could beef up the insurgency considerably with “volunteers”, weapons and explosives, but I don’t see Iranian tanks crossing the border or anything like that.

Perhaps. But it would have the same effect. If Iran really did step up operations in a way that was unmistakeable then Congress is in a bind. And so is the American public - even if the Bush team egged them on and made them do it.

Here’s a related story:

BAQUBAH, IRAQ — If there is anywhere Iran could easily stir up trouble in Iraq, it would be in Diyala, a rugged province along the border between the two nations.

The combination of Sunni Arab militants believed to be affiliated with Al Qaeda and Shiite Muslim militiamen with ties to Iran has fueled waves of sectarian and political violence here. The province is bisected by long-traveled routes leading from Iran to Baghdad and Shiite holy cities farther south in Iraq.

But even here, evidence of Iranian involvement in Iraq’s troubles is limited. U.S. troops have found mortars and antitank mines with Iranian markings dated 2006, said U.S. Army Col. David W. Sutherland, who oversees the province. But there has been little sign of more advanced weaponry crossing the border, and no Iranian agents have been found.

In his speech this month outlining the new U.S. strategy in Iraq, President Bush promised to “seek out and destroy” Iranian networks that he said were providing “advanced weaponry and training to our enemies.” He is expected to strike a similar note in tonight’s State of the Union speech.

For all the aggressive rhetoric, however, the Bush administration has provided scant evidence to support these claims. Nor have reporters traveling with U.S. troops seen extensive signs of Iranian involvement. During a recent sweep through a stronghold of Sunni insurgents here, a single Iranian machine gun turned up among dozens of arms caches U.S. troops uncovered. British officials have similarly accused Iran of meddling in Iraqi affairs, but say they have not found Iranian-made weapons in areas they patrol.

The lack of publicly disclosed evidence has led to questions about whether the administration is overstating its case. Some suggest Bush and his aides are pointing to Iran to deflect blame for U.S. setbacks in Iraq. Others suggest they are laying the foundation for a military strike against Iran.

Before invading Iraq, the administration warned repeatedly that Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Those statements proved wrong. The administration’s charges about Iran sound uncomfortably familiar to some. “To be quite honest, I’m a little concerned that it’s Iraq again,” Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said last week, referring to the administration’s comments on Iran.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iraniraq23jan23,0,1896346,full.story

Just to nitpick, Republican Guard= Iraq, Revolutionary Guard= Iran.

It was confusing me for a second.

What troops would we use to invade Iran? Hey! I know, lets get the Border Patrol to do it since we’re not using them!

Actually, this is good news.

It looks like Bush it taking to heart the part of the Baker Plan where they recommended engaging Iran.

-Tom

Part of me thinks that he may have actually thought that’s what that meant, and is just too embarassed to admit his mistake.

There a lots of branches that aren’t involved in Iraq: Coast Guard, Peace Corps, Boy Scouts…

Lots of young kids wasting their lives going to college when they could be protecting us from terrorists in the middle east. Time to ramp up a national draft.

So if a conscript is a slave, and yuri is gay, where does that leave us vis a vis don’t ask don’t tell?

I can’t imagine that the US can do any real military action in Iran. We can barely cover Afghanistan and Iraq, so how are we going to do anything major in Iran, which is QUADRUPLE the size of Iraq, and does not have a military that has been starved of funding for more than a decade like in Iraq. The only way I could see them even being able to come up with any troops to do any invasion would be to withdraw completely from Iraq. Draft would be too unpopular, so I can’t see that happening either. The neocons will have to content themselves with killing Iranians who wander over the border into Iraq.

Who on earth is talking about “invasion” except for you guys? Nobody. All that’s been undertaken is the kind of sub-rosa tit-for-tat that the U.S. has always had to do. Iran knows it will have to pay some price for actively aiding attacks against Americans within Iraq. I guarantee they have already budgeted that price into their cost of doing business. We’re just making sure they pay it.

It’s grim but it’s SOP in a proxy war. The world will never know how many Soviet commandos, advisers, and fighter pilots were killed at American hands in Korea and Vietnam, not to mention Afghanistan. Nor the reverse. But it was a lot.

So the plan is to bomb them and see what happens? That sounds like a great idea. Acting tough to get other countries to back down has had a clear track record of overwhelming success.

Let’s see, what’s the track record on Morris and Iraq so far? And here he’s willing to just assume that Iran’s behind operations against American troops even though there’s reporting, as shown in this thread, that nobody has put forward any evidence of such a thing. Sure, it’s possible, but based on what we’ve seen out of this administration so far it’s just as possible that this is an utter crock.

So do you think that any of these are true

Iran is the major state sponsor of terrorism in the Middle East

Iran is Hezballah’s chief supporter.

Iran’s President has vowed to wipe Isreal and its protector the Great Satan off of the map

Iran is actively pursuing the enrichment of enough fissile material to build nuclear weapons

Iran supplies weapons, advanced IED’s and training to Shia militias (Sadr militia and Badr Brigades) and at one time or even possibly at the present time Sunni Baathists and Al Q in Iraq.

Iran would like to see democracy fail in Iraq and would welcome the emergence of a client theocratic state

Iran’s leaders are awaiting the arrival of the Hidden Imam in the bottom of a well near Qom

Iran has regional hegemonic aspirations that frighten many of its neighbors…especially the Sunni Saudis

Iran is a repressive theocratic state whose core values are completely inimical to the liberal and humanist traditions of the West.

Iran is not a society that tolerates a homosexual lifestyle or the expression of “feminist” values

Brian, if you were President Gore’s or Kerry’s National Security Advisor, what would you advise him to do? Let’s say the invasion of Iraq never happened and Saddam and Sons are still ruling Iraq in their special way. Do you think the conflict of Iranian and US security interests would be any different? Do you really think that all of this stuff that goes on is because people don’t talk enough and misunderstandings happen? Is there any situation that you can imagine that might necessitate the use of force?

Better question still. Given today’s situation, do you think allowing Iran to acquire Nuclear weapons is an acceptable outcome?

And here he’s willing to just assume that Iran’s behind operations against American troops even though there’s reporting, as shown in this thread, that nobody has put forward any evidence of such a thing.

Oh my.

Though it’s tempting, there’s really no point in directing you toward the reams of reporting – much of it from authors bitterly critical of U.S. blundering in Iraq – that Iran has made massive investments in arming and training anti-American militias there. (Larry Diamond’s book “Squandered Victory” comes immediately to mind; Diamond, who is perhaps the most stinging critic of U.S. intervention in Iraq, asserts that “thousands” of Iranian agents have infiltrated Shiite Iraq to arm and train several militias, notably Muqtada al-Sadr’s.

Just for funsies, though, I’ll direct you to the tip of the iceberg…how about today’s ABC news report in which senior U.S. defense officials confirm ABC’s earlier reports that Iranian arms are being captured in the stores of the Mahdi Army and that at least 1,000 of Sadr’s fighters have received Iranian training.

Iran’s President has vowed to wipe Isreal and its protector the Great Satan off of the map

There is no such phrase as “to wipe off the map” in Farsi. A closer translation, that didn’t come from MEMRI, was that Israel, as a regime not as a country filled with innocent civilians, would “vanish from the page of time.” He pointed to three other regimes that this “wiping from the map” had happened to: The Shah, The Soviet Union, and Saddam Hussein.

As is typical of MEMRI, it didn’t exactly lie, but it put the exact slant that it wanted on the words, to produce a powerful meme that Iran was bent on war.

Iran is a horrible regime, but let’s stick to the facts. You seem to be mixing up your truths, your half-truths, and your unsupported possibilities in that list.