We’re still owed a Basquiat follow-up, which I would never have thought I’d want but I kinda do.

As to Interstellar, I’m content to cede the point to Tom. In order to counter-argue, I’d need to go watch the movie again, and I’m not nearly as invested in the argument as I am in not having to sit through that movie again. :)

Also the Fight Club novel, Vic Davis’ Solium Infernum, the rest of Cowboy Bee-bop, and a big sprawling thing I’m doing for the 1979 boardgame Magic Realm!

Victory!

I get why people might not like Interstellar. But dismissing it as “love conquers all” schmaltz requires not liking it so much that you gave up on paying attention to it.

-Tom

I will cop to the fact that this may accurately describe me. I sincerely don’t remember.

Also, the novel of Fight Club is interesting after having seen the movie. Even Palahniuk liked the movie better, evidently.

I loved the movie and I am really glad I saw Fight Club prior to reading it. I would definitely recommend that people watch the movie first and then read the novel.

Please Captain Tom Ahab, slay that white whale for me!

It’s in the storage area where you pick up the king and queen pieces, on a wall, all lit up. You just need to use the king piece to unlock a door to it. It makes the dash out of it and dropping the boss for a container smackdown slightly easier.

Oh, I’ll totally throw down on this one! Firstly, I didn’t say Matt Damon was her boyfriend. I have no idea how you got that idea. We never even see her boyfriend, unless you count his grave in one of the last shots. My point is that Brand and Mann (Hathaway and Damon) are both examples of letting human fallibility impair judgment. Love on Dr. Brand’s part and fear and cowardice on Dr. Mann’s part. Brand wants to go to the planet where her boyfriend is – that’s her speech about how love can be as important as science – but they don’t go to that planet. If they had, Cooper never would have gone into the black hole, the data would have never been transmitted to his daughter, and humanity would have been doomed.

Did you not follow the whole reveal about plan A and plan B? About the genetic material for the population bomb? About Dr. Brand (Michael Caine) lying because he knew people’s love of their family would hold them back? If you don’t like Interstellar, that’s fine. But you seem to have lost interest and stopped paying attention halfway through!

It certainly came across as if you thought Matt Damon was her boyfriend, but let’s blame that on you speaking extemporaneously and me half-paying attention while working (until I realized how wrong you were being).

The movie doesn’t back up Brand being wrong - the planet she advocates going to has better telemetry, and it turns out to be habitable. Going to Mann’s planet turns out to be so disastrous that only a insane slingshot maneuver can have any hope of salvaging the mission. The reveal of there not being a plan A only makes her more correct.

The only way you can see her judgement as being impaired is if you judge it from the point of view of knowing about the Black Hole Ex Machina where Cooper enters a tesseract and transmits gravitational data through a vibrating clock arm to his daughter in a move literally validates Brand’s speech of love being a thing that transcends space and time.

Which is almost as ridiculous as that sentence.

As for “foolish womanly sentiment”, that’s an odd takeaway. I didn’t see anything in the movie with that sort of dismissively misogynistic tone.

I’m not saying the movie’s misogynistic. I think the dudes’ rejection of Brand’s notion of going with the more habitable planet smacks of “oh stop being so emotional and be rational” - even though rationally the planet with better data is the option with most chance of success, but I also think the movie is siding with Brand.

(Also the greatest fuckup is is kinda pointedy named Mann - the movie’s playing with gender in some odd ways.)

I dunno, I consider humanity being doomed to extinction as “wrong”. Maybe that’s just me.

Dude, not only did you apparently miss the movie’s repeated references to love being fallible, but you seem to have missed the end of the movie, where time and space are transcended by…let me check my notes…black holes, the manipulation of gravity, and time loops. I realize there’s a lot going on, and it’s not all spoonfed to the viewer, but now you’re just making up stuff.

Well, I’m not sure why you put “womanly” in there. But that’s absolutely not a sentiment in Interstellar. Cooper and his children are every bit as conflicted as Brand by their feelings towards loved ones.

-Tom

I am not even sure I saw this movie after reading all of that. Drats! The itch to watch it is now too hard to resist…

With the information they had at the time and the parameters of their mission, she was making the right call, and given what later events reveal about the respective planet, she was right. She’s still alive at the end, enacting plan B.

Granted, she doesn’t know she’s a character in the movie Interstellar, and is unaware they need to get to Mr Baad Mann’s planet so everything can go wrong and Cooper gets launched into the black hole and continue the stable time loop where he sends back data through time leading him to the remains of NASA and to the mission, etc.

So on that level she’s a dummy that makes bad decisions, yes.

I don’t see the notions of love being fallible you do - I see awkward attempts to talk about love as some transcendent universal thing that then gets clumsily turned into:

because Nolan is not in his wheelhouse and doesn’t know how to deal with that.

Film Crit Hulk agrees:

His thesis:

Now, as is always the case, I have to issue a million caveats any time we start talking about “the mind of the artist” and who they are because, for all we know, Nolan could be a radically different person than the worldview offered in his films. But we always also have the right to make semiotical deductions about art and artist. Besides, connecting to another’s mind is precisely why we have art in the first place. But I want to be very careful nonetheless because the idea I’m about to present is a tricky one. At the heart of Nolan’s work, I do not think he’s simply unemotional or uncaring… It’s that he might be incapable of communicating it.

I went with “Inception” instead.

I found Inception boring as hell. Loved Interstellar, though it took a couple of watches. First time I was like “meh”, but it was working its way inside, here, and on the subsequent viewings I loved it.
My theory is that the movie is confusing some people because the music isn’t cueing what they should be feeling clearly enough — because unlike “Hulk”, I’d rather insult a lot of people instead of going carnival-psychiatry on a single victim.

I like Inception quite a lot more than Interstellar.

Don’t forget tonight we get to watch Tom enjoy:

Oh I forgot. And I almost made a Taco Bell run and missed it!

predicting less jumpscares but more creepy NPCs than the resident weevil streams

BTW did you all see that RE 2 mod that let’s you play in first-person? Wish Tom would have tried that. That third person looked awkward.

Happy Request Wednesday! Tonight Tom is streaming Call of Cthulhu - Steam link

You can find the Twitch stream here.

You can find the non-night mode YouTube stream here.

And you can find the YouTube night mode stream here.

Call of Cthulhu was a Request Wednesday winner. If you have a game that is on Steam or that Tom owns on the PS4 that you would like him to stream, you can leave a vote in the comments section of one of the videos he’s posted on YouTube or stop by the Monday or Friday stream and submit your vote in the chat.

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