OLEDs are still extremely expensive compared to LED LCDs; whether that’s worth it depends on your price sensitivity. They are incredibly gorgeous, though. And prices are dropping fast. They could be reasonably priced a year from now.
The price might drop, but will they actually make OLED/QLED/whatever-the-buzzword-is sets in the ~40" range any time soon? I’m using a 10 year old 37" Westinghouse 1080p set (amazing bargain/set for it’s time!) that I’d like to replace, but I’m not going to ho higher than 43" or so (about the size of the current set with its huge bezels). I started looking into the new sets due to the hype on here, and everyone is focusing on the huge displays. As you can tell from the age of my current set, I try to find good, forward-looking (if not cutting edge) tech bargains, and then just keep it for as long as possible- I really don’t care that much to upgrade and spend money every few years (I’m still using the same surround sound receiver I bought in 2001 alongside the OG Xbox, for example).
Hah. It’s really not size-envy, though. The room I watch tv/play video games in is just really small- like 9’x10’ or something. A bigger tv would just be stupid. I’m just annoyed they can’t/won’t put the good tech in a smaller form factor.
My pleasure! I obsessively read the AVSForum so that others don’t have to. :)
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The price might drop, but will they actually make OLED/QLED/whatever-the-buzzword-is sets in the ~40" range any time soon? I’m using a 10 year old 37" Westinghouse 1080p set (amazing bargain/set for it’s time!) that I’d like to replace, but I’m not going to ho higher than 43" or so (about the size of the current set with its huge bezels).[/quote]
Unfortunately, no. You’re not alone; there are many folks out there who have been asking for smaller OLEDs. But LG is not biting, presumably because making two (okay, three counting the ridiculously priced 77") panels is more cost effective than making multiple sizes.
As for QLED, that’s probably several years out at this point, and there’s little indication that smaller is going to get big again.
Pixels, how do they work?
Meh. I don’t need it to get big, I just need for there to be some option at all. As it is, I’m pretty much ready to bite on that 43" Sony 4k HDR thing. Honestly, it, and the other comprable Samsung/Visio models are so far ahead of what I have now they’re absolutely worth it (especially at these prices). I’m just hoping to future proof myself a little bit more.
Just checked on Amazon, and since I bought mine on August 11th the OLED set (55") has dropped in price literally $1k – from $3500 to $2500.
Nailed it @stusser
I hope more people can afford OLED sets now because holy fuck. They are like eyeball sex. It’s that damn good.
(I’m just pissed off that effectively zero OLED computer monitors are available.)
The 65" B6 model has dropped in price by more than $2000 since June. It’s slowly becoming within reach of my budget. Although, with the info Justin provided about input lag and HDR gaming, might wait for 2017 models at this point.
This thread, and this thread alone, is why I haven’t bought a 4K TV yet.
Through Microsoft I can get in on Samsung’s employee pricing program, which means ~$1300 for a 65" that otherwise goes for ~$1700 on Amazon.
But the prospect of reasonably-priced OLED TVs next year is the biggest reason why I haven’t bought it yet. I think I’ve made the right choice given the price drop wumpus just mentioned!
Sorry, to clarify I’m a Microsoft employee. Tech companies usually have deals between each other so Samsung, Microsoft, Dell, Lenovo, etc. can all get in on each others’ employee pricing.
The system is rigged!
I liked this review of the LG B6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz8O3sUH7xc It shows that while OLED are certainly the best right now they still aren’t “perfect” in every possible way.
Our 2015 top of the line LG OLED has gotten better through firmware updates, but it’s still pretty bad at near-black gradients (especially compared to our previous Panasonic swan song ZT plasma). It has far fewer shades of dark gray than it needs, and really dark scenes can be astoundingly bad – in HUGE contrast to the vast majority of scenes, which are amazing. I’ll still be buying another for our next house, but I’ll definitely hold out for the 2017 just to get another year of improvement out of LG.
Yeah 2016 was another year of improvements that addressed many of those complaints. Considering 2013 was the first year OLED was realistically available at all (and at extreme prices), the first 3 versions were probably early adopter material.
I guess I’ll upgrade to the 65" model in a year or two when it’s inevitably priced below what I paid for the 55" in August!
John Archer @ Forbes:
LG has now confirmed exclusively to me that is going to be rolling out a firmware update to its TVs that will address the HDR lag situation.
Now, exactly when it will arrive and how well it will work is anyone’s guess. Plus, the source is not identified, so it doesn’t come across as a 100% official company line. Still, it’s something!
Rtings.com is just the latest example of the impact affiliate based websites are and will, imo, have on buying stuff. Whether it’s a toilet brush (http://thesweethome.com/reviews/best-toilet-brush/) or a 4k tv, reviews backed by technical expertise and extended trials are driving consumers in droves to the highest quality/value products in a way that amazon reviews et. al only hinted at.
@LMN8R reminding me of the Samsung program resulted in me ending up with a Samsung KS8000 65" as an incredible price. A comparable OLED set would be at least 2.5x as much. The KS8000 is beautiful for a regular LED set, and then in a couple of years I’ll look at more mature OLED/QLED.
OLED is not 2.5x better than LCD. It is ∞ better.