In a thread already overrun with dumb pointless rants, let me add my own.
Look… any time you have close to a million people all asking for one thing, saying that one reason is The Only Reason is… stupid.
Clearly, what happened in Iraq is one reason. What happened in Ukraine is clearly another reason. Anger over the assassinated leader is yet another. Youth and cultural change is another. There are many many more that we haven’t listed here. As individuals, there are more than one reason; as a group, there’s many reasons. Most of the folks I know who engaged in demonstrations over here for one cause or another did it mostly just “for the feeling of being part of something,” and not because they really had a strong opinion one way or another. My wife avoided post-Tianamen demonstrations when she was in China largely because, although she was in the square the day the shooting happened, because all the people she knew were treating it as a social event, and that rubbed her the wrong way.
Everyone has their reasons.
Is it annoying to read me saying this? Of course. Because you know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. It’s blindingly obvious. No one really thinks that there is only one root cause. So [i]stop arguing like there is![/b] Any statement of the nature, “It’s not because of cause X” is outlandish when you have any realistic evidence to the contrary when you’ve got an event with nearly a million people involved, who all have their own reasons.
Trying to say that “Oh, this guy’s just saying that because he’s a political opportunist,” blah blah blah… yeah, of course he’s a political opportunist, or else he wouldn’t be anywhere as a politician. FUCKING DUH.
But to then go as far as to say, “Oh, these two events are not connected at all” makes you basically a sore loser, a wishful thinker, someone desperately grasping at the straws of a disintegrating worldview as you realize gee, those neocons aren’t completely right, but gee maybe they actually had a point?
I remember a time when liberals actually believed it was a good thing to end the reign of tyrants. Now all I hear is bigotry, where anyone not liberal is either some kind of gun-toting toothless uneducated redneck or a shameless amoral money-grubbing opportunist.
And the conservatives are just as bad! I don’t for a minute think anyone believes Bush and Iraq were the sole cause of what’s happening in Lebanon, but from the way some Conservatives talk who would know any different? They’ll defend Bush because he’s their guy in the same pointless, policy-ignorant way that Democrats defended Clinton because he was their guy.
Since open-minded discussion requires a person to have his mind open wide enough that he might actually change his point of view, and since nobody really WANTS to change their point of view, you end up with people arguing policy without ever discussing policy.
As someone who is neither liberal nor conservative, I’m fucking sick of it. But like a goddamned rubbernecker I keep coming back to political message boards to watch the train wreck as liberals and conservatives duke it out.
I put that little phrase in there because I wanted to see if it would provoke a reaction. Of course, some sophomore always takes the bait.