4846

I never seem to get that many Chaos Orbs in a league (or maybe I’m just really good at spending them) so that doesn’t sound cheap to me!

I wish the oils I needed for anointing my necklace was cheaper… Silver oil is around 32c right now.

4847

Cheap relatively to last league, of course :)

Also, if you sell things you’ll end up with a lot more chaos. Even if you’re not good at it, just selling some stuff by pricing high and dropping the price every so many hours until it sells does well for you. I’m not particularly rich compared to a lot of people who play as much as I do, but I do a lot of trading and that’s allowed me to spend well over 1000 chaos and few exalts this league so far (used up on bad builds, of course.)

Also, picking the currency options on the metamorphs will really help aside from trading, and the rarer item categories you can pick from them like blighted maps and even the occasional lucky incursion item with good rolls can give some nice tradable items.

4848

Don’t you have to be online a to run a shop? I don’t want to have to be online all day and night to flip some items. Or do you set up a shop and then just sell stuff when you’re online?

4849

Just sell stuff when you’re online. If you’re not trying to sell really niche items, it’s not a big problem. You just have to be patient and/or list a decent number of useful items and/or drop prices regularly. If you use premium stash tabs, it automatically lists you as offline for people, and most won’t even see your listings then.

4850

After trying everything I could find to fix my Steam logins, with the game failing to launch multiple times every time, I finally downloaded the standalone client and just got in immediately on the first try. Very happy. :)

4851

Tl;dr: If you have a few premium tabs to spare I highly recommend the rotating tab method for running a shop. The time you save not pricing anything is well worth the chaos you didn’t get.

You don’t even have to look at items if you don’t want to (which is the case for me after about the 2nd day of a league). So I use 4 tabs, set to public with all items the same price. One at 45c, 25c, 15c, 5c. The prices start lower early in the league and go up as I run maps because it’s not worth the time it takes to complete a trade just for 2c anymore. Now that I’m in endgame maps I use a 5th tab at 80c as well.

It’s just the way this game is that if you’re in a trade league it’s far easier to buy what you want than find it. For 2c I can buy a great ring for starting mapping once the league has been going a few days. The odds of finding one that solid before mapping are pretty poor and in all the time wasted looking at them I could have made more than 2c and gained a couple levels.

When you get back just ID everything and put it in the 45c tab. When that gets full, change the price to 25c, the price on the 25c to 15, 15 to 5, and 5 you empty out and sell to a vendor you have right next to your stash. Then change the now empty 5 to 45 and continue.

You’ll underprice some items, which you will quickly figure out when you get 10 messages for an item 15 seconds after you list it and that way you also learn what items to look at. Just yesterday I got a 45c sale on a unique jewel I thought was garbage and have definitely sold to the vendor several times before.

It also helps avoid the problem of price fixers which can be very confusing when trying to figure out what your item is actually worth.

4852

Cool idea.

I got a distinguished drop last night when I was running the one blighted map I had. The loot filter showed it with a white background and red text. I looked it up and it’s selling for 160 chaos, so I sold that one. I was also able to sell a couple of uniques and two different catalysts for reasonable amounts, so all of a sudden I have a couple hundred chaos.

Thanks for the advice on selling, I never would have considered it if you guys hadn’t told me how easy it is (I do have premium tabs so that makes it a snap).

4853

Thanks for that, great strategy.

4854

I’m having problem with the Atlas of the world. I’ve got 8 watchstone, and to get the next guardian I need to have 2 watchstones in a region. If I do that, I don’t have any map with the right tier and the guardian don’t show up. I’m having problem getting the right tier map for any region.

I’m thinking I should keep a region with 1 watchstone and do the higher lvl map in that region for a bit to get more map, then switch to 2 watchstone.

Any tips on how I should proceed?

4855

@outlandish. I do like the ease with which you will sell stuff given your strategy.

When you get the 10 tells for an item that you obviously underpriced what do you do? Just say “sorry, price error” and reprice it correctly?

4856

I take a quick proper price check of the item and if it’s not too badly underpriced I sell it. Otherwise I just say pricing error and frequently put on /dnd for a few minutes so things hopefully calm down.

I don’t feel bad not selling at all, as anyone who whispers you seconds after you list something has alerts up waiting for less knowledgeable players to list something for less than it’s worth and try to take advantage.

The only time I sold an item for far less than it was worth was when I listed for 50c or so, and they offered me 60, and told me it was worth 80 or so. If they aren’t trying to scam me I feel much more generous.

4857

I got lucky and bought a map from Zana at the right tier, in the middle of the section I wanted to do. I found 4 maps on the boss and metamorph around the same tier.

I hope I can get enough to continue tier ~11.

4858

Does anyone understand how to progress on the atlas? I have gotten maybe eight orbs from the insane dudes… conquerors or whatever they’re called. Do I need to start slotting two watch stones in each area? I don’t have enough to do that everywhere. Should I do it in some areas? On the outside edges? On the inside?

Should I just run maps and not even care about it?

I saw a video from ZiggyD on how to get started but now that I have more than four watchstones it’s not clear to me what I should be doing.

4859

Pick a region at a time to work on. To figure out which, hover over the boxes to the far left of the atlas to figure out which regions still have stones remaining which you have not obtained and at what required number. (The boxes to the far left are weird, they show extra important info for each region, but the boxes themselves are just a spot to store stones when you’re not using them, which I almost never do.)

Generally, pick regions with a lower number of slotted stones required (the number shown on each line there) for unobtained available stones first, unless you are powerful and can just slot 4 stones anywhere you feel like.

Once you pick and slot the required number of stones in the citadel on the atlas, the region should have a range of 4-5 tiers showing in spots the atlas, for example around 8-12 depending on region when you get to 2 stones slotted.

You’ll need a map in that tier in that region to get started, then other maps in the region of any tier to continue. Early on, if you just run one of the right setup (region+tier), a conqueror will appear and taunt you pretty quick, putting their color/influence on that atlas region. Later on (12+ or 16+ stones I think?), you will need to run a few to several like this to get the color/influence on the atlas.

Once you do that (their color is on the atlas), you’re set for that stone. Just run maps in that region even if they’re very low level until you get the conqueror stronghold.

To find the maps of a region quickly, the easiest way is to type the name of the region into the search bar of a stash tab. Just make sure you’re not typing one of the words that are in multiple regions’ names or you might confuse yourself. Otherwise, open the inventory while the atlas is up and hover or right-click a map in inventory to see where it is on the atlas.

If you can’t get the maps there are many options which can help:

  • Buy them from players if cheap enough.
  • Buy them from Zana and do her missions to reset inventory (and get free maps for more drops.)
  • Trade up with the 3-for-1 map vendor recipe.
  • Reroll on the same tier using horizon orbs if you have many of them.
  • Use metamorph encounters for selecting extra map drops (see below.)
  • Maybe run delve or incursion master missions and dungeons if you like them and try to head for the spots with more maps (reasonable depth and cities and such in delve, carto. rooms in incursion.)
  • Running betrayal master missions can help a little too if you’re ok with it, plus blight and legion can help a bit too when they pop up in maps every now and then.
  • I heard that maybe adding legion to maps from the device can be good once you get it, haven’t tried much, not sure, but some people get crashes with high-level legions so maybe wait for the patch later this week.
  • Or farm…

To farm, run maps of similar tiers or a bit higher than you need. For anyone who doesn’t know, maps can reasonably drop at equal or one higher tier than you’re running, but only the map boss can drop one two tiers higher, so generally run at about the level you need, maybe higher, or one below it, but usually only go two below if you have nothing better.

Make sure maps of reasonable tiers/regions you can get are showing on the atlas, those are the ones which can drop generally. It’s mostly just based on what’s showing now, not adjacency, though I’m not clear on what role unlocking maps by beating the map boss for the first time plays any more.

If you don’t already, make sure you always at least transmute/augment maps, and in yellow maps I’d really consider always alching them until you’re getting hurt too easily. Also, this helps unlock the various bonuses shown on the atlas (they’re a little different now.)

If you can, run metamorphs for extra map drops. If they’re too hard, just pick the easiest organs at the end of the map (not when he first pops up) except for the ones with the special icons you really want and not too many difficult modifiers. Don’t pick the higher rarity ones until you’re very comfortable with your build and with fighting metamorphs, they’re very difficult when you fill the bar. For this purpose, just pick easy organs plus ones with map drops and maybe easy currency ones. However, if something rare and valuable like blighted maps or a 6-link shows up on an organ, grab that instead even if just to sell unless it has a mod you absolutely can’t handle.

Don’t be too afraid to juice it up with sextants for more drops, they work on a whole region now, more of them are useful now, and they’re movable. With basic ones this is usually safer/easier than running very difficult alched maps for me. Just watch out for duplicates on the same region by hovering over a map on the atlas to see if there are red mods. If so, swap out the stone for another of the same color for later and re-sextant on the blank stone. I don’t know which ones are best, but in general ones that say they add some extra packs help. Also, if there’s one for a master, make sure you don’t run a master daily over it or you waste it.

Edits: More info and rewording.

4860

That is a lot of great info, thanks. I do have one question about what you said at the start:

Should I be working on regions where I don’t have the stones or regions where I do have the stones? For instance, one region has zero obtained stones, but for another I have two (I don’t have one or two stones from any single region).

Does the number of watchstones I slot change depending on how many stones I’ve found in that region? If I’ve found two stones in an area, do I need to slot 3 stones there to raise the maps high enough so that I can get the third?

Once I initially provoke the conqueror and the region gets colored I can figure out what to do but it’s getting to that point which confused me.

Thanks again.

4861

Yeah, stones everywhere, it’s hard to talk about and the UI’s a bit weird…

  1. Find a region which says you have not obtained at least one stone.
    (Just to be clear for anyone else, this part has nothing to do with what’s slotted currently, just what the hover text says when you hover on the region boxes on the far left.)
  2. The number it says for the lowest (numerically) unobtained stone there is the requirement you have to meet on the region.
  3. Then slot in enough stones you already have into the citadel spots in that region on the atlas (not the boxes on the left now) in order to satisfy the requirement.
  4. The requirement does go up as you obtain stones. However, I think it’s roughly an atlas-wide increase as you get more stones total which is a little confusing, though I may not understand it fully. Really though, the hover text from the boxes to the left is where you need to look to find out.
  5. Then run maps in that region of the tiers now shown in that region on the atlas.
4862

Thanks Romalar, great explanation!

4863

I agree. Prior to your explanation, whenever I had looked at the boxes on the left side of the atlas I had only read whether or not I had obtained the stone. I had never actually read the remainder of the text that says how many watchstones you need in that area to spawn a conqueror!

4864

Stash sale this weekend. Now all I have to do is figure out which ones to get. Was thinking one premium is enough since I don’t really plan to sell much if anything, one currency, one map although I have no maps yet, maybe one delve although I only have one fossil right now, maybe one divination since cards are piling up, and maybe one extra regular. Might have a couple of fragments so don’t know if I need that one or not. What do you guys have for tabs?

Edit - Maybe one for essences too. Looks like it is cheaper to convert an existing tab to premium rather than buying a new one.

4865

Most of my Path of Exile purchases have been stash tabs. I’ve gotten most of the specialized tabs and one or two premium stash bundles and have never regretted it. But then again I’m a bit of a packrat. I love being able to rename and recolor my tabs - because of that I always have a premium tab for jewelry, one for good gear, one for lowbie gear, one for things I might want to link, oftentimes one named after a character where I throw stuff I find that might fit on that character… lots of tabs!!

The quad tab is good when you’re doing stuff and don’t want to bother identifying or sorting through drops - you can mindlessly dump stuff in there and deal with it later.

I do not have a delve tab but I probably will get one just to get the fossils out of the way. I did buy a Fragments tab earlier this league and that’s the one specialized tab I’m not sold on.

I find the currency, essences and divination card tabs quite useful. Oh yeah, maps is great too. I just bought a uniques tab and I may buy one more (the uniques tab stores just one copy of each unique so you can’t store dupes).