Pillars of Eternity

[zombo77]

The problem with linking camping resources to difficulty is it exponentially hurts spell casters. Not only do their spells help out less because enemies are stronger and (depending on difficulty) more common, but they also can use their spells less frequently.

I tried messing with a wizard again after getting to level 4 and being able to recruit level 3 custom npcs. I still can’t understand why anyone would take one of these on path of the damned.

Druids and priests have more than enough casts, it only really hurts wizards. And they still might be worth bringing along later in the game, just not in act 1. There’s rings of wizardry that add additional spell casts and the higher level spells are pretty strong.

[Squee]

So has anyone completed the game yet? I’ve heard some very conflicting game length times. Apparently some people on steam have already beat the game twice?

Buddy of mine beat the game and completely cleared the big optional side-dungeon and clocked out at 42 hours.

[phero.1]

Buddy of mine beat the game and completely cleared the big optional side-dungeon and clocked out at 42 hours.

He must have skipped a ton of stuff or he just doesn’t read the lore books and such. There’s a lot more than 42 hours in here for me. I’m still finishing up everything I can in the first big town before moving on with the main quest and I only recently started dabbling into the mega-dungeon. (haven’t even gone past level 5 yet)

[BoyFrance]

Yeah I would really appreciate some of the difficulty/tedium settings being broken up more. I would love to play on Path of the Damned with respect to mob density/level increase, but fuck that single save start over if you die bullshit.

All Path of the Damned does is increase the difficulty. Trial of Iron is the ironman mode.

[Zuwadza]

Welp, just run into a progression halting bug in Raedric’s Hold. Dang.

[robc04]

Welp, just run into a progression halting bug in Raedric’s Hold. Dang.

What is it?

[phero.1]

What is it?

From what I’ve seen it’s; Leave “the wrong way” after dealing with Raedric and the game starts loading empty maps.
Didn’t get it myself.

[Zuwadza]

From what I’ve seen it’s; Leave “the wrong way” after dealing with Raedric and the game starts loading empty maps.
Didn’t get it myself.

Yep, that’s it exactly. I’m now stuck in Raedric’s Hold. I don’t think any of my save games work now. Obsidian says a fix is coming in the first patch.

Not really sure how you’d avoid it. Maybe just avoid that quest until the first patch.

[phero.1]

Yep, that’s it exactly. I’m now stuck in Raedric’s Hold. I don’t think any of my save games work now. Obsidian says a fix is coming in the first patch.

Not really sure how you’d avoid it. Maybe just avoid that quest until the first patch.

How did you exit the castle right after you talked to Raedric? Did you leave through the big middle entrance? I remember a scripted event there and I think that this event is the culprit depending on how it’s triggered or not triggered.

[quarryman]

Yep, that’s it exactly. I’m now stuck in Raedric’s Hold. I don’t think any of my save games work now. Obsidian says a fix is coming in the first patch.

Not really sure how you’d avoid it. Maybe just avoid that quest until the first patch.

None of your saves work or you just have none outside Raedric’s hold?

I’m glad I’m playing catch up with everyone here meaning that someone else is seeing a bug first. Avoided the double-click bug too, so far!

But I’m creating save games repeatedly just in case.

[phero.1]

None of your saves work or you just have none outside Raedric’s hold?

I’m glad I’m playing catch up with everyone here meaning I someone else is seeing a bug first. Avoided the double-click bug too, so far!

But I’m creating save games repeatedly just in case.

I’ve been saving excessively as well, to the point where the game spends ages loading my saves when I boot it up. I gotta get rid of some of those. Didn’t get the double click bug nor the Raedric one, fingers crossed.

[Teiman]

Raedric? I killed the mtherfucker.

I heard before on the internets that he has a trap setup where you are surrounded by enemies. So I had my dog companion byte on one guard leg. That triggered everyone to kill me, while I had setup a trap of my own inside a room in the side, I killed them all one by one, but it was still a long fight and most of my people ended unconscious. Did not triggered any bug, and after the revels take over the castle everyone was friendly tome.

[quarryman]

I think this might have been answered already but when initiating dialogue whose attributes are used? I assume its the main character? So if I have low Intelligence then I won’t get those options and it doesn’t make a difference if I use Aloth?

[Razgon]

I think this might have been answered already but when initiating dialogue whose attributes are used? I assume its the main character? So if I have low Intelligence then I won’t get those options and it doesn’t make a difference if I use Aloth?

Main character only, so you don’t have to worry about making characters that have everything in one package.

[quarryman]

Ta.

Ok I’m about 4 hours in and have a good grip on it. I’m a bit bored by my generic Human Fighter with 19 might.

I reckon I’ll reroll a Ranger tonight and restart with some higher dialogue affecting attributes to get the most out of the quest options.

I should be able to skip most of the early dialogue to get back to where I was fairly quickly.

[krayzkrok]

I love watching my druid transform into a giant werewolf, bash the living shit out of something, and then revert back to human form with an echoing growl and an end to the battle music. :) It’s the simple things.

[Razgon]

Ta.

Ok I’m about 4 hours in and have a good grip on it. I’m a bit bored by my generic Human Fighter with 19 might.

I reckon I’ll reroll a Ranger tonight and restart with some higher dialogue affecting attributes to get the most out of the quest options.

I should be able to skip most of the early dialogue to get back to where I was fairly quickly.

My ranger with a wolf is a real killer - and the wolf packs quite a punch as well, and doesn’t die quickly. Good times!

[TheWombat]

Yes. 45 hours for me and I completed most but not all quests.

The final fight was not enjoyable for me. It was far too difficult.
HINT FOR END FIGHT

- take two tanks in the final dungeon as you will need them -

This felt very much like Baldurs Gate 1 to me. BG2 was truly epic in scope and story. BG1 was good but not great. BG1 was more condensed with less imaginative locations, fewer epic tales, a main story that is not quite as well told, a villain who is not quite a well fleshed out and so forth. I felt much like that in Pillars. The locations, dungeons, monsters and so forth were well done but felt a bit generic at times. There were some good quests but very few I felt were memorable. So it was an exceptionally solid RPG experience but not a great one in my opinion. It is like they are growing into the universe and combat system and another game would perfect these and allow them to concentrate on making the story even more epic.

A couple of gripes I have -

Even after almost 50 hours I do not have a grasp of the combat systems and how they interact. I feel like someone who was playing BG2 but had never played D&D before. I was confused and never did grasp it. For example there are supposed to be lines from enemies showing which characters they are engaged with but I never saw them (like on page 4 of this: http://www.pcgamer.com/pillars-of-eternity-a-beginners-guide-to-combat/ what are they talking about as I can not tell who is engaged with who), quite often spells or abilities would not trigger and I do not know why even if my character was not engaged, there were so many priest talents I never did figure out which ones if any were any decent, there are different types of damage but I have no idea what does what and a few other issues like that. To be fair I did not spend a ton of time trying to research these because I figured that I would eventually understand.

Itemization was incredibly poor or again this is a concept I did not understand. It seemed that I only had two levels of enchants so that aspect was exceptionally limited. Some regular items hit harder than supposedly fine ones. I was rarely excited to find another piece of gear. In some cases I found no upgrades at all. For instance I never found an upgrade for Kana Rua’s gun. Not one in probably 30 hours of him being in my group. I think I found only one other “fine” gun like his the entire game. I did not understand what most of the potions were supposed to do so I rarely tried them. Same with food. Since I did not understand the combat system, the situational nature of potions and food remained a mystery.

I did not think the main story was told particularly well and often I did not know quite what was going on. There may have been story queues that I missed but for instance there is a certain ghost that speaks to you in depth in the end of the tale (that character reveals the whole story) who I really did not have a clue about until seemingly well into the 3rd Act. I still do not know if I just entirely missed something or where/how she fit in. It was an interesting tale but I was not very emotionally invested in it because I had no awareness of this character for the first 30+ hours of playing. Rather than playing an epic tale, I am more confused about the ending than anything else.

These things detracted from my enjoyment of the game since the story and combat are pretty major points but not enough for me to not have an overall favorable impression of the game and a desire to play it again sometime.

This hits a lot of my thoughts so far as well, though I’m nowhere near as far in as many. I am enjoying the game, and really appreciate what the team has done, but yeah, there are a lot of things I’d love to see worked on for a follow-on game. Glad I Kickstarted it though, for sure.

[Lucidvizion]

Yep, that’s it exactly. I’m now stuck in Raedric’s Hold. I don’t think any of my save games work now. Obsidian says a fix is coming in the first patch.

Not really sure how you’d avoid it. Maybe just avoid that quest until the first patch.

I had the same thing happen. If you don’t care about achievements, you can turn on cheats and teleport your party to gilded vale. I’m glad I did because I’d be pretty salty by now, still waiting on that patch…

[Teiman]

I was rarely excited to find another piece of gear. In some cases I found no upgrades at all. For instance I never found an upgrade for Kana Rua’s gun.

In the city of the bay theres a brothel, on the top theres a private club where you can only enter if you have a special members ring, there is a special vendor that sells high quality gear, weapons, armour, pistols, … maybe you can find a upgrade there.

I know what you say, I feel the same, Pillars feels like Doom1 or BG1,… not has epic as it can be.

bears here
http://www.pcgamer.com/pillars-of-eternity-diary-playing-as-a-party-of-bears/