2674

We know what it looks like, because they made a movie about it: The Siege.

2675

And yet is will be far more likely to happen because he’s fucking with the systems that prevent it.
Then again, I’m pretty sure that’s a feature, not a bug.

  1. Make America more vulnerable to attacks.
  2. Wait for attack.
  3. Declare dictatorship/fascist state in response to attack you made possible.
  4. Blame everyone who opposed you.
2676

You folks see this:

Mr. Priebus bristles at the perception that he occupies a diminished perch in the West Wing pecking order compared with previous chiefs. But for the moment, Mr. Bannon remains the president’s dominant adviser, despite Mr. Trump’s anger that he was not fully briefed on details of the executive order he signed giving his chief strategist a seat on the National Security Council, a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban.

Maybe this is just written sloppily, but it sure makes it sound like Bannon stuck himself on the principals committee.

2677

Even worse, it sure makes it sound like Trump does not even read or understand the EO’s he is signing!

2678

It doesn’t have to be masses- and won’t be until the economy collapses.

If it’s 10%, throw in demographics, and that will overcome any increase in voter suppression the Republicans succeed with.

When the economy does collapse- Bernie’s attacks on Trump can be played over and over to convince these folks that Republicans are just as bad or that they were dumb to believe Trump.

2679

Fixed.

2680

The president doesn’t control the economy. Sure there are things he can do to help fuck it up, like screw with trade and war, but there is no guarantee that even a Trump presidency will lead to down economy. We’ve been going up for years now. Some would contribute that to Obama, and in part that might be a fraction true, but we hit a nasty recession and we’ve been climbing out of that and past it for years now. There’s no reason to think it’s just going to drop again unless you’re seeing some leading indicator that says we will?

2681

Well, one good way to get quick recessions is to deregulate the financial sector and turn your back, though that will probably take a little while.

2682

The president always gets blame for it, especially when they have Congress, and when it does happen, the messaging writes itself.

2683

Yeah but that’s dumb. I’m not going to support blaming Trump for economical changes he may have nothing do with just because I hate Trump. I’ve said it before, presidents take too much credit and too much blame for economical changes. They can have influence but don’t have the kind of super powers too much of the public attributes to them. I can’t contribute to that kind of thinking just because it might benefit me.

2684

Blaming Hillary for some of the things she was blamed for was pretty dumb too.

And this could be directly blamed on the Republicans in general- as they’ll be bringing back pre-2008 rules, and remember how bad things were in 2008? They were so bad the Dems won a landslide.

The folks who vote on things like this are the voters that swing an election. They voted for Trump in MI/OH/PA because most of them were desperate economically and they hated Hillary (and didn’t hate Obama in 08)

2685

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

In any event, the idea that housing was some sort of golden investment that could only go up, coupled with a bunch of ninja loans and just incredibly lax regulation around mortgage was only part of the problem. I am certainly not in support of getting rid of all those regulations but we might have swung too far the other way, as our lawmakers tend to do. It’s to the point where the self-employed are, or were, having trouble getting mortgages because the banks got a little too gun shy. Hell when I showed them my AmerCorps Trust you’d think I slapped a dead body on the table… they just didn’t want to send the underwriters anything that might make them pause.

I get what you’re saying. We ousted Gordon Smith I think primarily because he kept voting the party line and not the will of the state. But I can’t support dumb just because it supports a current want. People should know, need to know, our president doesn’t have an Economy Button.

It will be “interesting” to see what he does with trade though. That could have a… large affect.

2686

I’m optimistic his supporters will eventually notice…

2687

It probably is an event too horrible to contemplate…

2688

Only five?

-Tom

“No puppet. You’re the puppet.”

2689

Trump has apparently gotten to crazy for Kanye West.


FOR KANYE WEST.

2690

I can’t even.

2691

Politico is running a story that Trump is unhappy about the Spicer skit, because it makes him look weak.

2692

Be advised that Franken is speaking about why DeVos is grossly incompetent on the floor of the Senate right now. You can see it on cspan2.

2693

I hope he chokes on it and gets so upset that he strokes out.
Welcome to not being surrounded entirely by sycophants, Mr. President.