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I know a couple of people I might just send that to.

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“And you’re treading dangerously close to the point where this phase of idiocy is what the rest of us will remember you for forever.”

Yeah, we reached that point about 4 or 5 months ago already.

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This is another, “Hey Trumpsters – you’re all stupid, and mostly racists” article. I can’t imagine a less effective way to change any minds. No line of argument beginning with “You’re an asshole” ever convinces anyone.

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That was my feeling as well. Actually my first feeling was, “as if they are going to read an editorial?”

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Why read when you can have Fox and Friends tell you instead

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Especially not the assholes!

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Or just Facebook and memes. Who needs news anyway?

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It’s not trying to change people. It’s a warning. There is a difference.

Nobody who puts up a “No smoking” sign thinks the sign will magically turn smokers into non-smokers. But what it does is put smokers on notice that if they that do that here, in public, it will not be welcomed or approved of.

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Which makes me wonder, HumanTon, if someone were to put up a, “No Trump Supporters,” on the entrance sign to a business, regardless of really being able to prove it either way, I’d imagine a huge uproar by that unpopular crowd. Fox would be all over that news like stink on … Trump voters.

But maybe you’re on to something. It’s not that editorial that will make a difference, it’s that we all need to take that approach.

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Whether we need to or ought to, we will. Judging people based on mistakes they’ve made in the past isn’t necessarily attractive or productive, but we do it all the time.

What makes me say this is how people treated Nixon supporters in the 70s, and how people treated Carter supporters in the 80s (which the Simpsons parodied as, “He’s history’s greatest monster!”)

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Pretty sure that’s the first time I’ve ever seen anyone equate Carter with Nixon. Carter was massively ineffective,but I don’t remember there having been any stigma associated with being a democrat in the early 80s. Some depression, as Reagan was prone to doing things like mistakenly remembering movie scenes as having been real life. Sadly, those are now the good old days.

Anyway, in the ‘after-presidency’ contest, it’s Jimmy Carter by a landslide vs the field.

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I’ve come to that point myself. If a place of business put Trump values not welcome- I’d go there more often.

The thing that needs to happen, is folks who want to re-enter civilized society and get away from radical Trumpism, we need to let them back in- we can’t shun them forever. There just needs to be a price for being a Republican, just like there is for being a Klansman.

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I get that it’s not effective to trash people, as it will just make them entrench. On the other hand, idiocy is idiocy and should not be coddled.

I’m so sick of tiptoeing around ‘real Americans.’ The ‘liberal media’ is full to bursting with articles trying to understand how they think, trying to feel their pain, yada yada yada. Think they give two shits what makes a latte sipping liberal like myself tick? Yet, here’s the kicker, we are both real Americans. I have the papers to prove it.

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Perhaps you were too young, or too old.

Dems during the Reagan years were caricatured as weak and ineffective loser wimps who were personally responsible for everything bad that might have happened in the 70s. America was saved only by the patriotic strength of Reagan and the omnicompetent, winner GOP. This view of the world was common not just in right-wing media, but in the mass media as well. Plenty of people at the time saw Alex Keaton not as a parody, but as a role model.

It stayed that way until Bill Clinton. And it has had a long-lasting impact on our political culture. Scratch a reporter over 45 and you’ll find that deep down they believe Dems are inherently disorganized and incapable of governing, and that the Republicans are born to rule. This even though the GOP has been a disaster for over a decade now, and Obama ran the tightest ship in modern history.

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It seems to me that they’re already entrenched, for no good reason. They won. They are the majority in both the House and the Senate, as well as the Supreme Court. They just thrive on playing the victim. So trash away. It will neither help nor hurt the core.

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On some very real level, Trump supporters works be afraid of being associated with Trump in the future.

And they will be.

If you keep supporting him at this point, it means you are incapable of processing reality. And that means you are an unreasonable person. It means you are unfit to be employed by me.

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It’s already happening. These signs, or similar, have sprouted up everywhere in the past few months:

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I have not seen one of those signs anywhere. If I do, I will go in and buy something.