magnet
2762
Even worse, if a professor were interested in rewarding honesty, why would she start by lying to her students?
Maybe he is confusing different experiences at Yale. Students often sign up for psych studies, which may include various tests, and might get paid $10 for participating (or might walk out). Obviously, those activities are not graded and completely separate from academic exams.
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RichVR
2764
As far as the West Point thing, and I saw this on a news show so I don’t have a link. An ex West Point guy, some retired general, was on TV this morning. He said that there is no such thing as any kind of scholarship to West Point. Something like 20,000 people apply each year and only 1500 are picked, purely on merit. Also that no military would ever say anything like that, much less General Westmoreland. So it’s not only a lie, but a lie only someone completely clueless about West Point would tell.
Maybe Carson threatened to stab him unless he got offered a scholarship?
Miramon
2766
I wish the liberal media wouldn’t keep picking on the poor guy, just for a little lying here and there. Do you want a president who never tells a lie? What kind of a crazy country would want such a man in charge? Oh. Wait.
Quaro
2767
Plausible. I could buy it was some kind of psych study and somehow the story got messed up, either in his mind or the ghost writer.
RichVR
2768
Or it was a chemistry thing. Lower garment ignition study.
Oghier
2769
That took me a second or two. Then, I laughed :)
I’m kinda baffled by the legalistic interpretation a lot of news sites are giving the term “scholarship” in the West Point story. In the common, everyday use of the term - meaning a program that pays outright for a student’s education - West Point most certainly does give scholarships. It’s just that everyone who gets in gets one.
Of course a lawyer would say that’s not technically correct, but I’m not quite sure why anyone expects 18-year-old Ben Carson to have known or cared about the difference.
And with so many other good (and much more colorful!) reasons to think Carson is a loon, who even cares?
I blame the ghost writer for this one. I mean, most of the stories in celebrity memoirs are exaggerated and/or made up … but a professional ghost writer should at least try to make them make sense. Show some pride in your work, man!
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Well, that’s a stretch. As Rich pointed out, whether it’s true or not, it just indicates he’s clueless about West Point. But I share your surprise about everyone getting fixed on the West Point scholarship claim; that goofy anecdote about the psych test at Yale is far more absurd and a much more damning insight into his character.
-Tom
Oh man, this video of Carly Fiorina getting steamrollered by a bunch of yentas is awesome.
-Tom
This was fantastic. It definitely sounds like something a liberal would say, except if a liberal politician said it, the people who disagreed wouldn’t listen. That’s why it’s so great to hear this from someone on the right.
The part that really made me shake my head is where he criticizes Obama for making a decision on Keystone based on ideology instead of based on the evidence, saying more people from science should go into politics because they would make decisions based on evidence instead of ideology.
I’m fine with what he’s saying there, but so much of what he says is based on ideology, including himself later in that same interview, talking about his faith.
RichVR
2776
Why doesn’t The View change its name to Arguing With Yentas? It’s so perfect.
It’s funny I guess, but the Carson Yale story doesn’t really register since it reminds me of two incidents that happened to me.
The first was when I was in college, I guess it was fall/winter of '91 just before the Gulf War broke out. I was taking a psych 101 class and the professor gave us an impromptu and mysterious test, gave us no details but did mention it wouldn’t be graded. We ended up taking the same test at the end of semester after hostilities had broken out. The professor told us we were part of research he was doing on aggressive attitudes and how wartime affects them.
The second thing is when I had started my first real job after college, working for a food distributor in Little Rock. One of those rare ice and snow storms blew through that brought everything to a standstill. I managed to get in to the office for work but almost everyone else called out. The president of the company, who was quite the weird old dude, came around and gave each of us that showed up a $100 bill.
Not the same thing really, but his story felt oddly familiar to me.
Wrong link. This one had Carly Fiorini showing incredible patience when being barked at by a group of incredibly rude, shrill fools.
Ephraim
2779
That’s really weird, and unethical. It doesn’t sound as if the professor got informed consent for the study at all, and used his position of authority as your professor to pressure students into completing his “test”. That shit would not fly at my University.
magnet
2780
It wouldn’t fly at most universities. No informed consent plus coercion of subjects are classic violations of research ethics.
rowe33
2781
I think Pogue sold his story to Carson but the ghost writer probably mangled it a bit.
