Presidential Race 2016

ShivaX · 2016-01-20T07:27:20.000Z

Priceless.

Also, some dude named Kuntzman is, in fact, a cunt.

TimJames · 2016-01-20T07:28:58.000Z

Sarah Palin is railing against the GOP establishment now. Isn’t she part of it? The Republicans have me even more confused than usual.

inactive_user · 2016-01-20T07:33:49.000Z

I hate the fuckin’ Eagles, man, but maybe you don’t need a cover snipe announcing the fact when a guy dies. Good grief.

ShivaX · 2016-01-20T07:34:41.000Z

Adam B:

I hate the fuckin’ Eagles, man, but maybe you don’t need a cover snipe announcing the fact when a guy dies. Good grief.

Pretty much. Or as someone said online:
"it’s all laid out in my new book: “Making Your Tragedy About Me”

Scuzz · 2016-01-20T09:11:55.000Z

Murbella:

I agree with this but i wonder if Cruz could have turned some Trump supporters if he had received Palin’s support.

This was all about beating Cruz to the punch, about trying to take something away from Cruz. Apparently Trump appeared at a Palin fundraiser in 2012 when she was thinking of running, so they have some history.

I kinda like McCain, but I blame him for putting Palin in the national spotlight.

Menzo · 2016-01-20T11:05:09.000Z

Not only does this take something from Cruz, it also allows Trump to dominate the news for another couple days. He is a masterful media manipulator. If I were his team I would have a lineup of the craziest, weirdest endorsements ready to roll out, one each day, from now until the primaries. Ted Nugent, Joe the Plumber, Tom Brady, etc. It doesn’t matter if they’re controversial, in fact that probably helps. Because if the news is talking about Trump, they’re not talking about Cruz or Rubio.

RichVR · 2016-01-20T11:37:39.000Z

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Mr_PeaCH · 2016-01-20T12:01:50.000Z

Adam B:

I hate the fuckin’ Eagles, man, but maybe you don’t need a cover snipe announcing the fact when a guy dies. Good grief.

His name is Kuntzman; what did you expect? :-)

Dan_Theman · 2016-01-20T12:04:51.000Z

He’s probably a Giants fan that doesn’t know any better.

Miramon · 2016-01-20T12:45:19.000Z

Kasich now says he is the Prince of Light and Hope. But GOP voters are notoriously intolerant of this Light-y Hope-y stuff. Perhaps he should return to his throne in Narnia.

Incendiary_Lemon · 2016-01-20T12:47:28.000Z

Menzo:

Because if the news is talking about Trump, they’re not talking about Cruz or Rubio.

He’s starving them of any airtime.

RichVR · 2016-01-20T13:44:55.000Z

It’s looking like Trump is really a product of the news media. If he was ignored from the outset he might not have gotten the traction that he has now. But the media is about making money. He drew eyes, eyes mean revenue from advertising. And it snowballed. Early on he was the least boring of the lot. That was back when we thought Jeb was the one to beat. Remember the old days?

Stepsongrapes · 2016-01-20T14:00:55.000Z

RichVR:

It’s looking like Trump is really a product of the news media.

Trump is a product of our society and our political discourse, in particular. While the media may have given him a platform, there is, apparently, a substantial percentage of the population that wants to buy what he’s selling. Now, it may turn out that he won’t get a substantial portion of actual votes in the primary. But for now, it seems that he will and that isn’t solely because of media coverage.

RichVR · 2016-01-20T14:06:14.000Z

Yeah, my point was that without the media many of those people might have given their attention to a slightly more mainstream candidate. I didn’t mean to make it sound like the media was the only reason for his success. It certainly was a big part, though.

Scuzz · 2016-01-20T14:23:13.000Z

Where the media comes in with Trump is by playing sound bites that they think will cause Trump problems, or at least controversy, as controversy is good for the media. The thing is people have listened to those statements and decided they were reasonable, not controversial. Therefore the media is now confirming what that group likes about Trump.

Plus, Trump is just simply a lot more interesting than Santorum or Fiorina.

Strollen · 2016-01-20T14:32:36.000Z

RichVR:

Yeah, my point was that without the media many of those people might have given their attention to a slightly more mainstream candidate. I didn’t mean to make it sound like the media was the only reason for his success. It certainly was a big part, though.

Trump and the media engaged in a virtuous cycle for both. Covering Trump brought eyeballs cause you literally never knew what outlandish thing he would say next. The crazy stuff he said demand a response from the other candidates. (You could try ignoring Trump but with so many candidate the media simply stopped covering anybody who didn’t play along with their game.) This put all the other candidates in a reactive mode and left little time for the mainstream media to provide in-depth coverage of other candidates.

Scuzz · 2016-01-20T14:38:13.000Z

How in-depth can you get with 15 candidates? Even now there are still 12?

Gutsball · 2016-01-20T15:19:48.000Z

Menzo:

Not only does this take something from Cruz, it also allows Trump to dominate the news for another couple days. He is a masterful media manipulator. If I were his team I would have a lineup of the craziest, weirdest endorsements ready to roll out, one each day, from now until the primaries. Ted Nugent, Joe the Plumber, Tom Brady, etc. It doesn’t matter if they’re controversial, in fact that probably helps. Because if the news is talking about Trump, they’re not talking about Cruz or Rubio.

If Trump really wants to dominate the news, what he should do is announce a group of people that he’s narrowed down for his choice for VP. Then he should have those VP candidates complete a series of tasks like on The Apprentice, maybe visit a state funeral for example. Every week someone gets eliminated and that keeps the media cycle focused on his campaign. As the campaign narrows down and more of the presidential candidates drop out, they join the contest to keep their name in the press. I like to picture Jeb crushed, his face in his hands, as it’s announced he lost the finale to the guy from Duck Dynasty. We might as well make this thing into the complete farce it’s becoming.

Menzo · 2016-01-20T15:57:38.000Z

Gutsball:

If Trump really wants to dominate the news, what he should do is announce a group of people that he’s narrowed down for his choice for VP. Then he should have those VP candidates complete a series of tasks like on The Apprentice, maybe visit a state funeral for example. Every week someone gets eliminated and that keeps the media cycle focused on his campaign. As the campaign narrows down and more of the presidential candidates drop out, they join the contest to keep their name in the press. I like to picture Jeb crushed, his face in his hands, as it’s announced he lost the finale to the guy from Duck Dynasty. We might as well make this thing into the complete farce it’s becoming.

This is an amazing idea.

Strollen · 2016-01-20T16:12:24.000Z

The sad thing is the VP apprentice may actually be a better way of selecting the VP, than the way we are choosing the President this cycle.