RichVR
4922
Well he is better looking than Cruz.
Miramon
4923
Rubio also has a slight advantage in seeming to have some faint Latino characteristics apart from his name, unlike Cruz who looks more anglo than most WASPs. But I suppose neither is going to do very well with the Latino demographic in any event, though conceivably there are some states where even a few such votes might make a difference.
I know you misspeak when speaking in public or just in general. It happens to even the best speakers.
However, this still made me laugh when Christie said this:
“He’s made it very clear that on the issue of pro-life, that Marco Rubio is not for an exception for race, rape, incest or life of the mother. Now, you know, I think that’s the kind of position that New Hampshire voters would be really concerned about.”
I can’t be the only one who did a double take when he said this.
I thought i heard wrong but i just watched the clip on youtube and that is really what he said. Too funny.
Link
So, mentioned this upthread, but no major source other than Politico has the quote as including “race.” NYT, among others, goes straight to rape.
Oh, it has nothing to do with the “establishment”, it has everything to do with the voting peons.
Timex
4927
Yeah, if you listen to the video, he actually DOES say Race, right before rape, but it’s pretty clearly that he just accidentally said race when he meant rape, and then immediately corrected himself.
Nobody? I had this image in my mind of a baby ball and chain for the start of a 100m dash…
And that’s what I get for reading at work instead of watching vidja. Thanks for the correction-correction, Timex.
This reminds me of something humorous I heard from an acquaintance:
“I keep hearing him say that he’s going to defend the border, but I just can’t trust someone named ‘Cruz’ to do that. I know that’s prejudiced, but I have to be honest about it. It makes me worry that he’s just interested in his people.”
Sarkus
4932
Rubio did well with Hispanics in Florida when he was elected in 2010, getting about 55% of the Hispanic vote. He also got 55% of the white vote. While Florida Hispanics appear to be more conservative than in other states (40% voted for Romney, above the national figure), it’s likely Rubio would still do reasonably well with them in a national campaign.
Timex
4933
Rubio has a critical element which really only Obama has had in recent years, in that he is able to speak and talk about how America is awesome and we can make it even better. And people like hearing that.
Rubio has a classic American story. His family was not rich, but was instead a blue collar immigrant family.
When rubio plays up this angle, I think he’s unbeatable, just like Obama was.
The problem is that in this primary, he’s being forced to compete for the “angry asshole” vote. And honestly, he doesn’t do it well. First, which most folks here will notice most, is that appealing to that vote requires that you say stupid stuff. But second being that i don’t think he really believes it.
When Rubio taklks about how America is great, and how everything he has is directly due to that greatness of our country, it flows out of him easily. And not just because he’s slick, but because I think he really believes it.
In the most recent debate, or back when he gave a response to Obama’s state of the union, he was trying to play up that angry angle… About how Obama was ruining everything, and ISIS was going to destroy everything, etc. Basically trying to “out angry” the folks like Cruz and Trump. But this never seems as natural for him, and ends up seeming forced. Which is fine for me, because I don’t go in for that anyway.
But I think that in a general election he doesn’t need to be so angry sounding, and can just go back to the aspirational theme, and that plays well. It’s the same kind of message that makes Bernie appeal to folks, but without the baggage of a 74(!) year old democratic socialist.
Scuzz
4934
Don’t Cubans tend to vote republican, thus the Florida difference. Or is that a thing of the past.
INteresting article - applies not only to Hillary:
Young people do not support Sanders because he is cool. They support Sanders because they believe he is real, honest and authentic in an age when politicians are obsessed with who gives them the money to purchase their policies and buy television campaign ads laced with platitudes, spin and often falsehoods.
Young people and many independents and others support Sanders because he believes in the power and nobility of the dream, while cynics claim those dreams are “naive” and “unrealistic” and should be abandoned before the battle to make them come true has even begun.
Thank goodness the Roosevelts and Kennedys never heeded such words of caution and calculation when they waged their heroic, uphill and ultimately successful battles to create Social Security and Medicare…
…There are reasons why Sanders is opposed by virtually the entire political, Wall Street and corporate media establishment that for many months has turned coverage about America’s decision to choose the next leader of our great nation into an idiot’s delight of nonstop homage to the bigoted insults and phony conservatism of Donald Trump.
These establishments, which are courted by Clinton and challenged by Sanders, are among the most distrusted institutions in America.
IMHO, this needs to be said to ALL of the Candidates.
Miramon
4936
I think it’s less true than it used to be, but indeed they were long famous for being the most GOP-friendly hispanic group in the US, and no doubt that is still the case to some extent.
They support Sanders because they believe he is real, honest and authentic in an age when politicians are obsessed with who gives them the money to purchase their policies and buy television campaign ads laced with platitudes, spin and often falsehoods.
I’m reminded of a sexist joke about aging and college girls.
New suckers every eight years.
Clinton/Sanders debate going on right now, live on MSNBC:
I think Hilary is kicking ass during this debate.
Oghier
4940
It’s a fantastic debate. It’s a no-holds barred brawl, focused on issues. Our political discourse needs a lot more of this, and a lot less of everything happening in the clown car.
I think both candidates look strong on most issues, except on foreign policy. Sanders looks quite weak in comparison there.
I just tuned in, and both candidates are shaking hands and calling each other great and smiling. Where’s my bloody murder talk? Where’s my fear mongering? Are we going to see a Clinton/Sanders 2016 ticket? Or a Sanders/Clinton ticket?
