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Some day I’ll find a working Twinlit team. My next attempt will be Bastet/L-L Zeus, Echidna, Lilith, Hera-Is, and probably Valk, although maybe D/L Batman for another delay, Awoken Hera for another gravity, or Athena for more light damage. If I can stall on rounds 1 and 3, it should go pretty smoothly.

Edit: Or maybe I drop lilith for Batman.

Okay, I’ve convinced myself. Bastet/L-L Zeus, Echidna, D/L Batman, Hera-Is, and Athena. Stall round 1, Batman round 2, Echidna Round 3, stall on Tama, Round 4 double grav, echidna delay, angrylit boost, batman delay, win. Sounds so easy on paper.

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Good luck.

Had 2 rolls on Godfest and got garbage but atleast it was the stones from the team challenge mode so nothing lost really.

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After four failures, I finally 1-stoned twinlits. If I can stall on round 1, then 2 and 3 are pretty easy, but I need a bit more damage on round 4. I think if I sub in Hera for Athena I’ll be good.

Edit: Next try, sky dropped a 5-chain of light orbs and wiped Round 1. Fuck this stupid dungeon.

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Apologize for the incoming wall of text. I’m at a crossroads in team development and not sure where to concentrate next. I’m currently level 78. The two most solid teams I have are:

Mono-Blue
Lead: Com Diety Hermes, lv1
Fenrir Knight, lv33
Blazing Ice Ogre, lv44
Wat Mech Warr Mid, lv29
Snow Gl Drag Bleu, lv48

Totals w/Hermes mult: 15154 hp/8560 atk/749 rcv

Mono-Dark
Lead: Thanatos, lv10
Dk Drag Knight, lv41
Dk Golem Mk II, lv55
Rainbow Keep, lv1 (max)
Dub-mythlit, lv1 (max)

Totals w/Thanatos mult: 17679 hp/3716 atk/849 rcv

How should I best invest my next 1.7 million xp?

Scenario 1: Develop Vampire, lv15 to Arc Mon, Vamp Duke, lv1 (6, B/D, lead 3xatk to dark)
Alt Dark Team #1
As above but substitute:
-Thanatos with Arc Mon, Vamp Duke
-Dk Golem with Blood Demon, lv47

Totals w/Vamp mult: 7219 hp/14673 atk/1071 rcv

*Scenario 2: Develop a Lucifer dark team (currently Archang Lucif, lv7)
Alt Dark Team #2
Lead: Ser of Dawn Lucif, lv33
Dk Drag Knight, lv59
Dk Golem Mk II, lv68
Rainbow Keep, lv1 (max)
Astaroth, lv41

Totals w/Lucifer mult: 15960 hp/4916 atk/1982 rcv

*Scenario 3: Develop my mono-blue team
Alt Blue Team
Lead: Com Diety Hermes, lv38
Fenrir Knight, lv68
Blazing Ice Ogre, lv50 (max)
Wat Mech Warr Mid, lv48
Mar Spec Ops Goblin, lv70 (max)

Totals w/Hermes mult: 18960 hp/10256 atk/402 rcv

If it matters, I’m currently working on Hyperion Lava Flow in the normal dungeons, and Twilight Woods in the technicals. Not having a lot of problems advancing, but I’m not in a hurry; I like playing around with the special limited dungeons that come out. Not even close to trying to attempt descendeds.

Any thoughts as to where to focus? I’m kind of leaning toward Scenario 1, but am open to ideas from the folks with more experience.

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You have a lucifer and you aren’t developing him? He’s easy mode for the easiest few decends

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You can’t get arcane monarch vampire without a devilit and you aren’t going to be able to beat Twinlits to get one for a while. Dark liege vampire duke paired with a D/D batman is better a lot of the time anyway.

What team to go with kinda depends on how much you enjoy playing SoD Luci. It would take an hour or two, but that team with a second Luci lead could beat Hera today no problem. Then take a few Heras (if you have the team cost) and that team could beat Two Heroes and Valkyrie. Level up the Heras and maybe throw in a drawn joker when that dungeon comes around again and that team can beat Goemon, Hera-Is, Hera-Ur, and Zeus. Strong team, but it’s usually grindy as hell.

Mono-black vs mono-blue is a toss-up, but mono-black is more flexible because it isn’t weak against green. It kinda seems like a waste to not use Hermes, but if it were me I would aim for a team of D/B vampire, Dk Dragon Knight, Rainbow Keeper, and then maybe whatever will fit between a second Rainbow Keeper, Dark Golem, Echidna (not black, but that delay comes in really handy some times), Dub-Mythlit, and eventually a drawn joker if you don’t already have one. Then find D/D Batman friends.

What is your max team cost? When Hera comes up again, you can try it with Lucifer, a drawn joker if you have one, maybe Astaroth, and as many rainbow keepers as will fit. Then you can sub in a Hera or two into your dark team if that will fit. Until you get vampire his ultimate evolution, mono-blue is going to be stronger than mono-black, though.

Edit: Okay, I looked at Hera, and you’d actually ideally need to use a poison (Lilith, Ghostring, or the blue angry bird) for Neptune to beat her. And you’d need to save enough hearts to heal against Hera after killing Hades. But still, not that far away.

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I’d wait on evoing vampire lord to duke vampire lord, since the cost goes from what, 10? to 30. Which is a huge leap in team cost

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Based on the feedback I’ve received so far, here’s two more options. For the record, I have a Pierdrawn, access to a few Lucifer friends (which is why I haven’t found it necessary to develop mine yet), and lots of D/D Batman friends. I have a D/B Batman, who is great for farming, but I’m just not skilled enough on challenging dungeons to keep him over 80% hp to keep his 3.5xATK bonus.

Scenario 4: Vampire, lv 15 to Dark Liege, Vamp Duke, lv 1 (6 D/B, 2xATK/RCV to dark)
Alt Dark Team #3
Lead: Dk Liege, Vamp Duke, lv1
Dk Drag Knight, lv41
Blood Demon, lv47
Rainbow Keep, lv1 (max)
Dub-mythlit, lv1 (max)

Totals w/lead mult: 7219 hp/9796 atk/2142 rcv

*Scenario 5: Develop Spinas as lead
Alt Dark Team #4
Lead: Moondrag Lun D’Spinas, lv68 (2xATK/RCV to dark)
Dk Drag Knight, lv57
Blood Demon, lv57
Rainbow Keep, lv1 (max)
Astaroth, lv45

Totals w/lead mult: 7897 hp/10298 atk/2334 rcv

The Spinas team is stronger than the Vampire one in raw stats; not sure if Vamp’s heartbreaker ability makes up for it. My max team cost is 85 right now, so I can field either team.

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Getting a lucifer changed how i played. He makes some stuff super easy, all tues, weds, fri dungeons are no effort, ocean of heaven faming is simple and special dungeons, including all types of dragon dungeons get a lot easier and collabs and specials.

He’s worth getting a team built for regular simple no hassle use, little chance of wasting stamina or dying.

Hermes is also cool, i have a blue mono team with Hermes, sieg, torrent Fenrir, midguar and kenshin but have idunn, neptune, siren or snowglobe that can go in. With another blue leader its like 50,000 hps andm akes master weekend money a total no effort and keeps coins high.

My luci team started out simple

Luci
Vampire
Rainbow
Lilith
Chaos Knight. All of these are farmable this allowed me to get a couple of Heras. Now i have for general boring use

Luci
Awoken hera
awoken Hera
Dark liege, Vampire lord
Chaos dragon Knight voice

An example of how simple they are to use is Rainbow Keeper, on keeper its gravity x 2 hit points down by 50%then 2 morning stars and he is dead, suer i can use kirin or valk teams and take him down but for bone idle watching the tv and doing the weeklies for goodies its just minimal effort and plenty of room for screw ups as well.

Personally you should develop Luci and hermes for now, focusing on getting any additonal team members you need, also levelling dark should be the easiest with the metal dragon dungeons.

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Never really needed Hera - UR so not bothered the dungeon, so far run legendary twice and no drop either. may get 2 more runs in one tonight and one first thing tomorrow before the dungeon change over (8am here).

Using a Dual Lucifer team with hades, hera, siren and neptune

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Level 1 vampire, yeah, but his stats get better than Spinas pretty quick. Also, you’ll eventually want him on your team to break hearts, so you might as well make him the lead. D’Spinas is just going to be a temporary lead since Dark Liege Vampire outclasses him in every way. And blood demon is not going to see much use on end-game teams, so I’d rather focus on pierdrawn or something.

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Well Hera- UR dropped on the third run which was nice.

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I have all these great plans for teams I’m going to put together, but before I can finish leveling a team up, I get distracted and start leveling up something else. I have most of the pieces for a Cu Chu balance team, a Siegfried physical team, a Red Sonia Devil team, a Horus team, an Athena team, and a mono-blue team, and I want to stick Yomi on some kind of team, but obviously I don’t have the experience to put all of them together. I really need to level my verche up, but light exp is so hard to come by and I’m using it all for Zeus atm.

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Thanks for the feedback, folks. I think I’m going to go with developing Vampire as a lead, since as Hanacker mentioned, I’m going to need to level him sometime anyway. One last question:

Is there any rule of thumb for determining when a team is sufficiently leveled up? I’m kind of like the junior level of Hanacker, wanting to put together various entry-level teams. I’m unsure when I can comfortably set one aside to start developing others. Like if I got my Hermes up to lev 25 or so, would my mono-blue team listed above be “done” for now, at least until I get my hands on a Mermaid/Siren or a Siegfried?

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Totally depends on where you’re at in the game, the monster’s experience curve (echidna, for example has severe diminishing returns), and what else needs experience, but my general rule of thumb is that max level in 2nd-to-last evolution or about level 25 in final evolution is usable in a pinch, 50 is fine for general use on secondary teams, 75 is good for one of my main teams, and anything above that is for trying to squeeze every last drop out of a team for use in hard descends and the like. Hermes gets a pretty sizable increase in hit points as he levels up, so basically, if you’re never in danger with his team you don’t need to level him up much more for now, but if some more life could help I’d get try to get him up to 50 or so for now.

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Quite a few new ultimate evolutions recently which is nice but i think PaD could do with a few new dungeons and creatures some of which you could maybe pick up outside of the rem, the sonias and fruit dragons are all rem only, it would be nice to have a new vamp, titan, healer to farm for on a dungeon.

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They added a bunch of new and ‘new’ dungeons too, but they’re all events. The cost limited ones like draggy and T-something

1658

Darn it, the special hourly dungeons these days happen at such an ungodly times. Means i have to get up at 3 AM in europe to do them. My girlfriend won’t be happy… :\

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I have one 1-hour meeting today at the exact same time as King Carnival. Oh well. I really need to evolve my Red Sonia, though.

Also, I thought I’d try Trifruits, but it looks like I’ll just wait for Twinlits. Maybe if I had a Red Sonia or Satan team…

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I usually start the dungeon to get my foot in the door, and then finish it up later. You can be 30 seconds late to the meeting! :)