Recent air combat sim recommendations?


#2321

Buttons are for sissies…engine, stick, throttle, gun.


#2322

To each their own. I have time for neither :sadface: #kids


#2323

Which button blips the engine?


#2324

The main appeal of WW1 and WW2 for me is the lack of buttons. I have no patience to learn buttons. I just want to shoot things. ;) I’m curious how long I can survive with Mr. Gruber in that death trap I started in. I think I’m way more likely to crash and die than get shot down. Hell on my first takeoff I didn’t know it banked hard to the right and almost died right there. :)


#2325

Yeah I was into the WW1 / 2 stuff for a long time but in recent years the more modern stuff has been what holds my attention. And that’s just a 747, not even a combat plane. It’s just there’s no non combat flight sim thread so I sorta feel orphaned onto this one every time I start goofing around with my simulator :P


#2326

The best way to turn those early war aircraft are to jump out, and then twist the entire fuselage from behind. “Banking with intent to turn” (an F-104 chestnut) describes them perfectly.

This. I actually had a pretty good time playing with the old AOTP a couple of days ago.


#2327

Wow, what made ya load up that old chestnut?


#2328

I have to pay my respects to my roots every once in a while, or I get all itchy.


#2329

Don’t worry, Eric. These guys present a stiff upper lip, but secretly they all want to press the APU GEN2 button.

It’s right there waiting to be pushed.


#2330

Is that the button that makes the gin come out?


#2331

There has been exactly one time in my life when I was interested in switchology.

I believe I was six or seven. I would flip cardboard boxes over, color them up with crayons, and pretend they were spaceship control panels. I cut “buttons” into the boxes to press in any order that my imagination dictated.

I believe six years in nuclear propulsion killed any remaining interest I had in locking myself down to long, tedious procedures for the sake of long, tedious procedures.


#2332

Do flight simulators even map functions to all of the buttons in cockpits? I’ve flown some bigger planes in X-Plane, and I remember being disappointed that so few of the objects on the dashboard were interactive (not that I’d know what they did even if I could press them).

We should start one, dammit.


#2333

DCS does, for nearly all functions. Expect to spend 10 minutes pressing, flipping, and twiddling things before you even start taxiing. :)

I love this kind of thing, learning real start-up procedures for complicated machinery.


#2334

Sounds like I should be trying DCS. Can I have an okay time with the free-to-play version on Steam?


#2335

#2336

The only super-detailed aircraft which comes in the free version is the TF-51, the unarmed P-51 trainer. The Su-25T is near the top of the middle-depth flight sims, where you have to learn a lot of keystrokes without the benefit of actual switches.

If you’re looking for the greatest amount of switch-throwing and the widest array of procedures, the A-10C is probably your bird. Otherwise, just go for one of the in-depth aircraft (everything except the A-10A, Su-25 and Su-25T, Su-27/33, MiG-29, and F-15) which strikes your fancy. Or, if you like the idea generally but aren’t entirely sold on military aircraft, you can find similarly full-fidelity civilian aircraft for FSX and/or Prepar3d, from third-party vendors.


#2337

The default planes no. But this is $135 addon payware :P It simulates every system and switch very accurately :)


#2338

I think I’m starting to understand the high price tags some of the payware planes command. I’ve stayed away from them because I had just assumed the experience would be similar to the out-of-the-box planes. It would appear my assumption was wrong.

I’ll give DCS a try this weekend.


#2339

It’s a thing of beauty!

Yeah, they’re not small or simple undertakings. Here’s part 1 of the startup training mission to give you a taste. :)


#2340

I’ve been digging into the Viggen of late. Fewer switches, but I’m loving the speed and excitement. Which is weird, because I’m usually a helicopters guy.