Recommend me a board game?

Lizard_King · 2011-09-18T05:54:58.000Z

Wendelius:

Robert Florence tells you why you WILL preorder Dreadfleet: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/17/cardboard-children-dreadfleet/

Mind you, after seeing what price I’d have to pay on Ebay for Space Hulk nowadays (GW means it when they say limited edition) and after seeing those pictures, I think he might have a point:[…]

A 10 minutes intro where Games Developer Phil Kelly gives us an introduction to Games Workshop’s new boxed game, Dreadfleet.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m1t5hYvCLo

I gave in to the temptation. I’m weak.

Wendelius

I’m in assuming I can figure out what’s the best way to preorder. My sprue clippers are ready to party. On second thought, better have a second and third set of clippers on standby.

Tracy_Baker · 2011-09-18T08:10:08.000Z

Lizard_King:

I’m in assuming I can figure out what’s the best way to preorder. My sprue clippers are ready to party. On second thought, better have a second and third set of clippers on standby.

Ack! Maybe I’ll hold out for someone to hate it and buy it used.

How come nobody mentioned there’s a sweet-looking 200-card expansion for Ascension coming in a few months? Credit Card Powers: ACTIVATE!

mkozlows · 2011-09-18T08:16:35.000Z

malkav11:

Stuck doing nothing for more than one turn at a time? A few times, probably not every time. Stuck doing nothing for multiple turns over the length of a game, purely due to the movement system and/or the movement system interacting with the limited availability of encounters? Every single time.

The Sands expansion makes it so you always have an encounter. That said, I’ve never found this to be a big deal, but maybe that’s because I always played with family, so was engaged and paying attention on everyone’s turn. If I were just taking my turn and then going back to reading the web on my phone, I can imagine it being a very frustrating experience.

JM1 · 2011-09-18T10:47:10.000Z

Lizard_King:

I’m in assuming I can figure out what’s the best way to preorder. My sprue clippers are ready to party. On second thought, better have a second and third set of clippers on standby.

Space Hulk was a must buy for me because it was the game we all knew and loved. This? Really not sure. It’s a lot of money for a “limited edition” game that we know nothing about.

Jasper_Phillips · 2011-09-18T11:46:02.000Z

Wendelius:

Robert Florence tells you why you WILL preorder Dreadfleet: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/17/cardboard-children-dreadfleet/

A 10 minutes intro where Games Developer Phil Kelly gives us an introduction to Games Workshop’s new boxed game, Dreadfleet.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m1t5hYvCLo

I gave in to the temptation. I’m weak.

Wendelius

Tempting! How does it compare to Man O’ War?

Wendelius · 2011-09-18T11:59:21.000Z

Lizard_King:

I’m in assuming I can figure out what’s the best way to preorder. My sprue clippers are ready to party. On second thought, better have a second and third set of clippers on standby.

Here is the preorder link, by the way. Just in case. :)

Wendelius

Tracy_Baker · 2011-09-18T12:18:26.000Z

Wendelius:

Here is the preorder link, by the way. Just in case. :)

Wendelius

Direct from GW? No thank you, sir!

Lizard_King · 2011-09-18T13:42:34.000Z

Wendelius:

Here is the preorder link, by the way. Just in case. :)

Thanks, but I’m of one mind with Tracy there. I’ll be encouraging my local dealer to get it for me, ensuring I pay just that price and not shipping etc. Have to cut corners where I can to create the illusion of a rational decision.

Vesper · 2011-09-18T13:44:36.000Z

Any idea of a release date? My local gaming store took reservations for Space Hulk, which worked out well.

Wendelius · 2011-09-18T13:45:38.000Z

Lizard_King:

Thanks, but I’m of one mind with Tracy there. I’ll be encouraging my local dealer to get it for me, ensuring I pay just that price and not shipping etc. Have to cut corners where I can to create the illusion of a rational decision.

Fair point. I haven’t really investigated whether it will be easy to procure at a local dealer or not. I wasn’t even looking when Space Hulk came out and missed out on that. So GW seemed like a safe bet.

Wendelius

Mike_Cathcart · 2011-09-18T14:07:21.000Z

Damn it, dudes. Don’t make me buy Dreadfleet.

z22 · 2011-09-18T15:43:48.000Z

garin:

I got the World of Warcraft game as a gift, but one 12+ hour session has so far been enough. At least I won.

We’ve had the same experiences with WoW, along with Twilight Imperium, Descent, Axis & Allies, and a few others. Do they playtest these marathon games? Who the heck wants to, or can play a game for 10+ hours? I’m never buying a game I know can’t be played within 5 hours, preferably a lot less.

Thankfully many new games realized this and are developed to be played in ~4 hours (Rune Wars, most Euro games, most card games, ad hopefully most upcoming games.

Hans_Lauring · 2011-09-18T16:09:42.000Z

I still have two or three huge Man’O’War fleets as well as other stuff. I am so getting Dreadfleet.

Jasper_Phillips · 2011-09-18T16:21:23.000Z

Man O’ War set a pretty high standard, probably GW’s best game (excepting, perhaps, Blood Bowl). I’m leery that Dreadfleet’s game mechanics don’t hold up in comparison…

Bahimiron · 2011-09-18T18:08:28.000Z

Some iOS news:

Summoner Wars iOS has been given a (relatively) firm October date. Can’t wait to start the QT3 tournaments there.

Tigris and Euphrates, having already slipped its last date*, has been moved to October. Codito says the problem is with multiplayer and they’ve decided to skip using OpenFeint or GameCenter. Which sucks. GameCenter’s not the best, but it is fairly unified. Having to maintain a separate list of friends who play Samurai, for instance, just means I never play Samurai.

Big Daddy Games says they expect Caylus to be out in October as well.

Apparently Cyclades should be hitting iPad in October too.

So October sounds like a good month to be an iOS boardgamer.

*Not that pale human concepts such as time mean much to Codito.

malkav11 · 2011-09-18T19:00:10.000Z

z22:

We’ve had the same experiences with WoW, along with Twilight Imperium, Descent, Axis & Allies, and a few others. Do they playtest these marathon games? Who the heck wants to, or can play a game for 10+ hours? I’m never buying a game I know can’t be played within 5 hours, preferably a lot less.

Thankfully many new games realized this and are developed to be played in ~4 hours (Rune Wars, most Euro games, most card games, ad hopefully most upcoming games.

Yes, they do. I was brought into the Fantasy Flight studios specifically to playtest the WoW boardgame - the only time I’ve been there. We wound up just fiddling with the boss fight at the end. There is a market for games that require that kind of time commitment. There must be. It’s not a new phenomenon. Hell, I’d be one of the people buying them if I had any prospect whatsoever of convincing -other- people to play them with me. Though…probably not WoW.

deccan · 2011-09-18T19:40:32.000Z

z22:

We’ve had the same experiences with WoW, along with Twilight Imperium, Descent, Axis & Allies, and a few others. Do they playtest these marathon games? Who the heck wants to, or can play a game for 10+ hours? I’m never buying a game I know can’t be played within 5 hours, preferably a lot less.

Thankfully many new games realized this and are developed to be played in ~4 hours (Rune Wars, most Euro games, most card games, ad hopefully most upcoming games.

Our group managed to finish a game of WOW in about 5 hours, though that was a determined effort with everyone learning the rules before hand and absolutely no dicking around. A Descent scenario can be comfortably completed in under four hours if everyone knows what they’re doing.

While I’m as leery of ultra-long Ameritrash games as anyone else, I’ve played some very long Euro games and have been very happy with the experiences. I’ve played Die Macher twice now, both times taking about five hours a session, and I had a blast both times.

Dean · 2011-09-18T20:21:18.000Z

Heck, we’ve now had two games of TI3.0, the first clocked in at 9 hours, the second almost exactly 12 hours.

Everyone who played wants to play again.

So yeah, there is a market.

mkozlows · 2011-09-18T20:21:37.000Z

deccan:

While I’m as leery of ultra-long Ameritrash games as anyone else, I’ve played some very long Euro games and have been very happy with the experiences. I’ve played Die Macher twice now, both times taking about five hours a session, and I had a blast both times.

We got halfway through the rules explanation before it became clear that at least two of the people involved had already mentally checked out, and it ended up getting tabled for something simpler.

I’d still like to try it, someday.

ShivaX · 2011-09-18T20:36:56.000Z

Its really all about if the degenerates at the end or stays interesting.

WoW degenerates into farming gear or whatever to fight the boss, so it gets obnoxious.