2813

All I can suggest is you guys at least try it with a controller, it really plays and feels a lot better. Aiming isn’t nearly as important in a game like this as in a competitive shooter, which is the only real advantage to mouse aiming - and you can also snap to your targets optionally, if you want that to not be an issue (controller) aiming.

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2815

Why would you need to snap to a target with a mouse? Just point and shoot. I understand this made for a controller, because I have it on PS4, but the mouse should be a lot better… like way better.

2816

The mouse might be (maybe, I’m not really sure even without snapping the mouse is actually better in a game like this) but everything else will feel worse. Just my opinion, I honestly don’t care how anyone else is playing.

EDIT: And to clarify, I wasn’t suggesting having snap-to-target on with a mouse, I was saying it can be enabled with a controller to offset the drawbacks to not having your Mouse.

2817

I’d like to say a controller would serve you better than mouse and keyboard - and it probably would - but the controls would still be a counterintuitive mess.

As the resident Red Dead Redemption 2 grinch, I will say that a lot of it is very badly designed, and extremely poorly paced. But…even if there’s an obscene time tax to pay, eventually you will care about Arthur and the end of his arc will land. (And I don’t know what the hell Tom is on about because what’s going on there is pretty universal.)

2818

I remapped a lot of the controls (there is ongoing optimization) and it is tolerable for now.

Chapter 2 is basically a giant tutorial, so I’m taking the time to explore the world before moving on. That Mary Linton thread is piquing my interest.

The survival mechanic is head scratching. How do I know I’m eating too much or not enough? Unlike, say, Fallout 4, there is no indicator as to when you are hungry or full. For me, the only way to prevent underweight is to stuff Arthur with food whenever possible, which is a PITA. The DS2 problem may have contributed to this as well.

And why can’t I cook meat in the camp??? I have to go out and start a fire when there is a perfectly good fire in camp???

These are all probably old problems but I imagine they could have been fixed in a patch, but they haven’t.

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I believe there is another fire in camp over near the horses, I think you can cook meat there. Look for the little metal stand/grill by the fire.

2821

Yes. There is a grill inconveniently located at the edge of the camps where you can cook. I say inconvenient because I find it just easier to slap up a camp and cook on the spot when i hunt… if I need it then.

2822

Thanks, I’ll look for it next time I boot this up.

Yesterday I spend, what, 5-6 hours horsing around and not one crash. I guess it pays off sticking with WHQL driver instead of the latest one.

2823

Unpopular opinion: this is the most boring Rockstar game for me…

2824

Just give it a little time. It gets good about 40 hours in.

2825

LOL, not sure you are serious.

2826

Me me me please! Let me into your posse! I so want to posse up with non randoms.

Is there a QT3 posse?

2827

Actually, it does take quite a bit of time for the game to get interesting. Chapter 1 was a real turn off for me. Once I got to the point where I was free to just get on my White Arabian and explore the world, I was hooked. I spent many, many hours just riding around and exploring and seeing what (and who) I could find. There are some very interesting things to find in the world that really don’t have anything to do with any main story lines.

Like RDR1, RDR2 is really a Western Noir. If you are the kind to nit pick and a game and the game mechanics and some of the writing, etc. (and I have no issue with such folks) you’ll find a lot to pick at. For me, once I got deep into it, it was less about a “game” that I was trying to win and more about a really amazing world and experience it provided for me.

2828

I wish there were but I don’t know of any.

I’ll hit ya up next time I’m in game! I know loads of friendly, capable cowpokes, just a question of who’s on at the same time.

2829

I like to think of RDR2 as the best hunting/fishing simulator ever made, with a fantastic story and diversions ready when you want.

2830

Are posse’s a persistent thing? I’ll look into this next time I log in to expand my trade empire.

As for how “fun” Red Dead 2 is, I’d give it a fun factor of 11 on a scale of 1 to 10. But it’s a laconic arthouse Western. Calling it “boring” is like calling Terence Malick “boring”: you’re not wrong, but you’re saying more about what kind of games you like than anything particular to this one.

-Tom

2831

This might be a low information post, but I think of RDR2 as uncompromising. It moves at its own pace and you either slide into its groove or you’ll be struggling against it the entire time you play.

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And also Horse complimenting sim.