3234

I mean I’ve felt that with basically everything that’s been locked. :)

And I have no fishing quest on the map. In fact I’m down to like one quest I think and a couple bounties. Said quest is unlikely to deal with fishing (though anything is possible I guess).

I guess my position right now is: I’ve done a bunch of story quests. And most things are still locked. And now I’m just annoyed by it and can’t get the will to actually start the game knowing I have to do more of them. Like I don’t want to do the only quest I have really. But it’s the only quest I have, so… if I load up the game, I guess that’s what I’m doing. It’s like knowing there is a Ciri part in Witcher 3. I don’t want to play a flashback of some other character. But at least there I could generally fuck off and do whatever, at least until I started it.

Here I can fuck off and do some things, but not whatever because stuff is arbitrarily locked cause I haven’t done the thing I’m not that interested in doing. Meh.

That said I’m off to give it a shot, because I’m bored and everything sounds dull to me, so I might as well do it now.

3235

It’s been a while since I played this, but I don’t remember that much stuff being actually locked away once you’re out of the snow. What are all the things, besides fishing, that you want to do but they wont let you?

3236

Falconry.

3237

I just played for 6 hours and still can’t fish. Then I rage quit some stupid mission I didn’t want to do since I’d just done like 5 of them in a row to try to get to where I could fucking fish.

You basically can’t fish or buy like much of anything. I had unlocked a ton of things, but when you get to Chapter 2 your options are basically: shoot animals or do missions because nearly everything else is locked until you do missions that unlock stuff. All the camp stuff is locked behind missions, most things you can buy, a lot of activities, just tons of stuff. A lot of it unlocks fairly easily and naturally, but other stuff like fishing is buried deep in a quest tree.

I still don’t have it and now I need to rob a train or something and I’m just so sick of everything right now. I just wanted to fish. It’s been 20 hours can I buy a fishing rod already?

3238

The rod is free! I really enjoyed fishing in this game, probably half my total gameplay time was fishing.

Just keep playing!

3239

Fishing is only unlocked very late into Chapter 2 IIRC. I’d say Chapter 2 is still the tutorial chapter. Chapter 3 is when everything is opened up.

3240

Yep. Fishing unlocks in the latter half of chapter 2. When you begin the chapter the world is open, but the game still has a lot of mechanics to teach you. Which means a lot of activity types are walled off.

Which… good news… means you have missions to complete. I say good news because the missions are great! Especially in chapter 2, but all throughout the game. As much as it’s an open world game, it’s a story driven game, and its high notes are reached when you figure out how to balance the two.

3241

IIRC fishing is unlocked by doing a mission for Abigail Marston where she asks you to take Jack* out of her hair for a while.

BTW, there was a bug in the PS4 version that made it so you couldn’t give Dutch a pipe that you’d found if you didn’t do it by the end of Chapter 3. Just fair warning because I don’t know if it was ever fixed.

*He of the very annoyingly voice-acted lines as an adult in RDR-- WTF were the game producers thinking?

3242

Your comments are reminding me why I greatly prefer playing games like this on a game console. I never quit the game I’m playing. I just wake the console up and jump right back in.

3243

This more and more for me. Windows needs an actual sleep mode for just games so you get back to them - not just leave them minimized.

3244

I’ve restarted after finishing Ghosts of Tsushima (loved it) and I’d forgotten how much “fuller” the world is in RDR2. I’m part of the way through Chapter 2, I’ve got about $1800, and I’m currently doing some bounties and doing the treasure maps. I also haven’t gotten the mission to teach little Jack to fish yet but I haven’t been to the camp in a while. But I’m sucked back in. Been trying to get as many 3 star hides as I can, got my eye on some upgraded holsters and I really want my rattlesnake hat again! I played for a LONG time wandering and exploring and I’ve already discovered a couple of things I missed first time around.

3245

Lately, my main problem with RDR2 is reading Shiva’s ridiculous complaints about it.

I kid! I kid! (But seriously, c’mon, dude.) There’s only one legitimate gripe one can make about this game and it happens at the so-called end. ;)

3246

Well, the combat isn’t great, and if I had a dollar for every time my horse got stuck on a rock and galloped in place for a couple seconds before collapsing and tossing me twenty feet I’d probably have like thirty dollars.

3247

The camera was a little weird on console too. I felt a lot more… free on PC. It’s a gorgeous game. I still wish they would just let me play in a open world full of events, quests, hunting, horse breaking and exploring with a gang of friends instead of whatever the hell they keep trying to do with RDR online these days.

3248

This. I would love a simple coop online mode where I could invited a friend to ride with me. I’d pay full price to play the free form single player world with a friend.

The only other big complaint I have is the behavior in which I set up camp, sleep until morning, and someone has moved me a LONG way away from where I went to sleep. Why in the world do they not just let you set up camp and sleep and wake up in the same place?

3249

I think they do it for those awesomely cinematic wake-up shots.

3250

Not only would I pay full price, if they let me play with 4 people, I would buy it for those other three just so we have the option. The whole money sink and other silly nonsense is trying to squeeze an MMO into a game that just turns into the company spending a lot of time trying to stop people from sniping the heads of new playrs. Ugh.

As for ongoing revenue, this game is practically made for cosmetic purchases. I mean there are people who spent as much time as I did playing Arthur, just dressing him up like a Barbie dall. I wouldn’t pay for clothes, but you can bet I would pay for a chance to get a mission for a new horse, and a giant stable that houses more horses than there are My Little Ponies.

Yeah I don’t get that either. You go to sleep near a river like any respectable gunslinger would and you wake up in a field under a cliff or next to the railroad tracks.

3251

I have lots of gripes and I feel they are legit. Input lag, clunky controls in general, the uber slow walk speed in camp that’s so bad I avoided going to camp and interacting with NPCs as much as I could, so-so combat and that’s just of the top of my head after finishing it over a year ago.

3252

This wouldn’t be so bad if camp, poker and some of the other mini interactions just sort of … paused time. You lose a day just talking to John and then walking over to get some hay. It’s like so ridiculous.

3253

Slow walking in camp is infuriating, and hard to understand why.