Republic of Rome forum game


#1132

I think we sort of assumed that from your previous comment.

We are looking for a voting majority, not unanimity. Contributions need to be done now if we are to pursue the war.

@rho21, what are the current vote totals? Also, please put on hold on the distribution of talents I made above. Consider me as not having answered. Until we are finished negotiating things might change.

I think we just need @Panzeh or @CraigM to agree to have a deal in place.


#1133

All commanders returned to Rome, so I believe the numbers on the game state post are correct:
Panzeh: 9
CraigM: 10
Kolbex: 9 (+3 for battle proposals)
scottagibson: 8
Navaronegun: 6
Juan_Raigada: 5


#1134

@CraigM, @Panzeh, are you guys in?


#1135

I may be in, but not until we see what the forum phase brings.


#1136

I am willing to kick in, but I think it prudent to do so after we know what horrors await us this turn.


#1137

Ah, good point. I’m not opposed to that, but to have the option to contribute you have to lodge your funds with one or more Senators, rather than the faction treasury. Isn’t that right? So you have to decide on a contribution now.

I’m Ok to delay the formal agreement until after the Forum phase, but to be part of it, you have to spread your money accordingly, and you have to refrain from influence attempts during the Forum phase.

And, @Juan_Raigada, I’d need that talent now. Can you send it to Calpurnicus, please?

@rho21, all my funds to Calpurnicus, please. Nothing in faction treasury.


#1138

Contributions need to be done now, not on the forum phase, I think. They are part of the revenue phase.

@rho21? Is that right?

If so the formal agreement needs to take place now, since the spending will take place now.

Look at it this way, guys, most likely we will want to take care of the First Punic war no matter what happens.


#1139

Yes, that’s right. Can we agree to:

  • Everyone contributes to the state
  • Everyone agrees to forego influence attempts
  • Everyone agrees to prosecute anyone who makes an influence attempt

Edit:

  • Everyone agrees not to support any other prosecutions this turn

This agreement works even if @Navaronegun doesn’t join.

@Kolbex @CraigM @Panzeh ?


#1140

Well then, I won’t be rushed. The treasury is in fine shape thanks to last year’s victories. I see no reason to have the richest faction in Rome turn to the poorest and demand that they contribute funds, while he hoards state money granted to him due to state emergencies. When he is not threatening Rome, that is.

Prudence, caution, and seeing what the fates have in store for Rome seem to be the best course.


#1141

I would agree to that, as well as the previous slate you proposed.


#1142

I don’t think the treasury is on fine shape. To have a good chance against first Punic we need to spend 90 talents on fleet raising, which would leave treasury in dire straits. If collaboratively we can reach 50 talents of contributions or so (of which 25 would me mine), we would be in a much better position.


#1143

And the slate for next year. We also need to make sure we spread influence, I think, or we minor factions are hosed.


#1144

Of course I’d like that agreement, too, and I’m willing to join it now. But if others aren’t, we still need the funding to fight the war. Or we have to ignore it for another round.

It’s really up to @Kolbex @CraigM @Panzeh


#1145

That’s sensible, but without the slate for next year we can’t guarantee no prosecutions since we don’t know who will be censor, though (and we can’t prosecute if somebody tries persuasion attempts). At least we should make sure we vote for censor one of the signatories.

I would be open to wait for discussing the slate if we guarantee financing. So I agree to your proposal.


#1146

If a big enough voting block agrees to oppose any prosecutions other than in reprisal for influence attempts, that would work.


#1147

Yes, that would work. Do you want to amend your proposal?


#1148

Yes, done.

We need @Kolbex , @CraigM, @Panzeh to weigh in so we can finish the Revenue Phase.


#1149

I agree with @Navaronegun here.


#1150

Very well, I withdraw the proposal.

@rho21, 5 talents to Calpurnicus, the rest to faction treasury

Sorry for any delay.


#1151

The Easter Grain Company distributes its wealth this way:

5 talents to Fabius
13 talents to Papirius

The rest remains in the faction treasury.