Rifts: Planes of Telara MMO from Trion

razarok · 2011-03-23T08:34:00.000Z

Thanks to everyone! But I need one thing confirmed, even though people already mentioned it. One can really “upgrade” from the normal to the collectors version?

I ask since the digital download deluxe versionnis 60€ on steam and the normal one is 35€ at a reputable online store. So paying 10 bucks on top of the 35€ seems like a much better deal…

extarbags · 2011-03-23T08:45:18.000Z

I went for the regular one when I saw that the level one mounts cost like two silver. I’m assuming that’s not much?

Blackadar · 2011-03-23T08:47:57.000Z

Adam Altmann:

I’ll disagree on the value of the collector’s edition, and I’m a pro at wasteful spending. Sure, it’s ten bucks, but it doesn’t take very long to come up with the cash for a mount in-game, and I have yet to run into an issue with bag space.

I had the exact opposite experience. As a crafter, I’ve been fighting for bag space ever since I started playing so I’m damn glad I have a bigger main bag and I’m glad I had a free mount early because money got tight for a while there.

Athryn · 2011-03-23T08:59:51.000Z

extarbags:

I went for the regular one when I saw that the level one mounts cost like two silver. I’m assuming that’s not much?

They cost 2 platinum. 1 plat is equal to 100 gold.

walTer · 2011-03-23T09:09:17.000Z

And fwiw, I have never seen anyone under oh 15-18 on a mount other than the CE one. I am sure people have had the money by then but not many—plus the mount speed is 60% until level 40 so for me, that is money I can save for my fast mount or good gear as I level.

extarbags · 2011-03-23T09:13:10.000Z

Athryn:

They cost 2 platinum. 1 plat is equal to 100 gold.

:/

According to IGE, 10 platinum is worth $8.95, so they’re basically offering more than five times as much for your extra ten bucks than the CE is. Not that I’m going to go that route, of course… crap, I wish I’d known.

JM1 · 2011-03-23T09:15:05.000Z

That is a truly shit way to compare it. Sorry.

The CE is more than just the mount, as well.

Charlatan · 2011-03-23T09:21:01.000Z

Blackadar:

I’ve been in warfronts that got lopsided too (both ways) but every single time it was due to folks bailing out of the warfront. Started one that was a 7 v 5, went to a 9 on 8 and then ended as a 9 on 3 (with the timer counting down to shut down the warfront due to not enough people on the other side). Not much Trion can do in that case.

Not to keep beating this dead horse but I’ve been in warfronts that have started as 1 vs. 5, 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 7 (the 1 vs. 5 one did shutdown after 120 seconds, though). Those numbers were from looking at the score screens, not from trying to count people, so they are accurate. So warfronts do pop with unbalanced numbers.

extarbags · 2011-03-23T09:29:49.000Z

JM:

That is a truly shit way to compare it. Sorry.

The CE is more than just the mount, as well.

I know, that was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

Also, looks like you can upgrade to the collector’s edition after the fact. Sweet!

Blackadar · 2011-03-23T09:55:34.000Z

Charlatan:

Not to keep beating this dead horse but I’ve been in warfronts that have started as 1 vs. 5, 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 7 (the 1 vs. 5 one did shutdown after 120 seconds, though). Those numbers were from looking at the score screens, not from trying to count people, so they are accurate. So warfronts do pop with unbalanced numbers.

If it started 1v5 or 3v6, it means people dropped out or didn’t accept the invite to the Warfront after queuing.

Dejin · 2011-03-23T10:37:42.000Z

Blackadar:

I had the exact opposite experience. As a crafter, I’ve been fighting for bag space ever since I started playing …

Me too. Crafting chews up a lot of bag space.

Stridergg · 2011-03-23T11:25:31.000Z

Charlatan:

Not to keep beating this dead horse but I’ve been in warfronts that have started as 1 vs. 5, 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs. 7 (the 1 vs. 5 one did shutdown after 120 seconds, though). Those numbers were from looking at the score screens, not from trying to count people, so they are accurate. So warfronts do pop with unbalanced numbers.

Of course they do. It all depends on how many people click the “Ignore” button once the WF invitation pops up, so it’s all random and all kinds of imbalances can occur for either side.

Of course, one could argue that the side that has longer WF queues is less likely to ignore an invitation but it still can and does happen.

TheWombat · 2011-03-23T11:25:59.000Z

Luckily for me Dayblind has maintained pretty good server pops. I started playing some on Sunrest and there’s lots of folks there as well. I still have toons on Seastone but haven’t touched them in a while. I barely have time for one or two, and that’s doing mostly crafting on one.

One thing I’ve found is that I always run into issues using an alt as a crafter. My outfitter, for instance, can work with heavy hides and silk, and needs them to skill up, but as he’s only 23 he can’t actually kill the things he needs to get the materials. And because he can’t do that he can’t get his butchering up enough to process the raw hides that my friends send me. My own fault, I’m not complaining, but it’s so easy to get into that sort of situation. Now I have to find the time to level him up; he’s a rogue, not my favorite class these days mostly because everyone ELSE is a rogue.

I like my mage, but I wish I was simply more competent at playing a warrior. I really like the archetype of the plate-wearing, sword or axe-wielding death machine, but my melees skills suck.

Stridergg · 2011-03-23T11:30:15.000Z

Blackadar:

If it started 1v5 or 3v6, it means people dropped out or didn’t accept the invite to the Warfront after queuing.

Yes but earlier you said this:

First, warfronts don’t spawn at 4 to 8. Trion keeps them pretty well balanced in terms of population admitted. You might have someone quit that creates a population imbalance. You might have players who go AFK. But the raw numbers are always within 1 or 2 people at the start. Look again.

And this is incorrect. The raw numbers at the start can be anything depending on how many people decide to ignore the popup.

Stridergg · 2011-03-23T11:37:34.000Z

Falcon554:

Wasnt a choice we wanted to make, but at the time, we thought it was the right one. As it turns out, it was very bad choice. But what do you do when people who want to play are in a 6 hour q?

All we can do is prey for sever transfers. Who knows when that will happen

One thing to remember here is that Falcon is level 46 at the moment, the second highest level in the guild. Majority of the people in the guild and on the server are still in their 20’s and 30’s.

My char is level 36, he sees open world PvP everywhere he goes and WF’s queues are not bad at all.

Of course, I don’t know how it is going to work out in the future but IMO it’s too early to tell whether the server move was a mistake only because the guild’s 2 highest lvl people have no one to pvp with right now.

Sooner or later everyone will be at lvl 50, right?

Anaxagoras · 2011-03-23T11:44:09.000Z

Stridergg:

One thing to remember here is that Falcon is level 46 at the moment, the second highest level in the guild. Majority of the people in the guild and on the server are still in their 20’s and 30’s.

So he levelled way faster than everybody else, couldn’t find anybody his level to pvp against while wandering around, and then declared the game a failure?

It’s as if higher thought processes are denied to him. It does explain why asking his guild to change servers was unfathomable, though.

Falcon554 · 2011-03-23T11:45:42.000Z

Stridergg:

One thing to remember here is that Falcon is level 46 at the moment, the second highest level in the guild. Majority of the people in the guild and on the server are still in their 20’s and 30’s.

My char is level 36, he sees open world PvP everywhere he goes and WF’s queues are not bad at all.

Of course, I don’t know how it is going to work out in the future but IMO it’s too early to tell whether the server move was a mistake only because the guild’s 2 highest lvl people have no one to pvp with right now.

Sooner or later everyone will be at lvl 50, right?

Yea I know I level fast, thats just me, always have always will :) I did a /stillmoor and there was 6 people in that zone, that includes me and another Wanderer :( that was at 6 pm pst

So at 4am this morning loged on to sunrest and did a /stillmoor there were 14 people there, thats at 4am!

Charlatan · 2011-03-23T12:24:49.000Z

Yeah but Sunrest is the unofficial insomniac server!

:D

Erik_J · 2011-03-23T12:49:54.000Z

I’m also on Molinar. I’m in the 10-30 range right now… wait times about 2-3 minutes on the Guardian side for PVP at the most. Think you just out-leveled everyone Falcon.

Stridergg · 2011-03-23T13:11:50.000Z

Anaxagoras:

So he levelled way faster than everybody else, couldn’t find anybody his level to pvp against while wandering around, and then declared the game a failure?

It’s as if higher thought processes are denied to him. It does explain why asking his guild to change servers was unfathomable, though.

No need to get offensive though. It’s understandably frustrating when your main thing is PvP and there is no one to PvP with, even if it’s temporarily.

Besides, Falc’s main complaint is the state of mages as well as the abundance of CC at high levels. Current server pop is just icing on a frustration cake.