2721

That’s awesome! Where was it?

2722

I once literally fell asleep playing that song. For me, one of my top 3 worst.

2723

I can’t stand Red Lottery either. I always thought it was an awful, plodding song.

That’s the beauty of DLC and a 500+ song catalog, tho. There’s plenty to choose from … or avoid.

2724

I have enormous fun with the Orbison pack. It’s light stuff for the most part (though a couple of tracks have a little more difficulty to them), but it’s good warm up or wind down stuff, and the vocals are indeed awesome.

The mastering sounds flawless, too. I don’t regret the purchase at all.

2725

The Roy Orbison pack is simply heaven.

Sadly, the tracks (aside from You Got It) are not the originals, but re-recordings Orbison did back in '85. Understandable, however, as some of the original songs date back to '56.

2726

Steve Miller but no Jet Airliner? Lame. That song would be lots of fun to play.

2727

The Village Pourhouse in NYC. They have Rock Band every Tuesday, Jen and Miguel from rockgamer.org run the show, it’s a good time.

2728

That’s so incredibly stupid. The youtube videos are what sold me on Rock Band.

2729

Music labels are trying as hard as they can to make sure they cease to exist as quickly as possible. They kick-started their own journey toward obsolescence quite a while ago and it seems they’re now doing nothing but hastening their demise.

2730

I have 130+ GH / RB videos up on YouTube and have had a handful of them flagged in the past week, some before I’ve even marked them as public (I upload videos as private until I can check them for quality). Others, however, by the same artists, have dodged the knife. It’s weird.

As a musician and songwriter myself, I have mixed feelings. These videos are a great marketing tool for many of these bands, and so they’re arguably hurting themselves by getting them yanked. At the same time, there’s a general rule that says if you allow people to violate your copyright and you don’t do anything about it, it’s harder to defend your copyright later on. So labels are almost obligated to do something. It just seems there should be a better solution.

2731

That’s true of trademarks, but I don’t believe it’s so with copyright. Copyright protection is generally extremely strong.

2732

But I’m not sure how they say it’s a copyright violation anyway. Are they worried that people are recording the shitty audio streams instead of buying the music or something?

2733

A lot of people treat YouTube as free internet radio. When you see a video that’s nothing but a song and an album cover shot and has 1.5 million hits, it’s obvious people are using YouTube as a way to listen to whatever they want without paying.

When you factor in that YouTube is making money off these videos, and none of it goes to the artists, that’s when the lawyers get called in.

2734

Those YouTube/RB videos are CLEARLY copyright violations. Period. It is still stupid of them to make a big stink about them and have them taken down because as mentioned they are great advertisements and won’t have any practical impact on music sales (other than possibly increasing sales through RB DLC), but there is simply no question that they are technically copyright violations.

2735

Maybe but if you read the thread in P&R, online music sales in Canada are growing much faster than in the US, and in Canada p2p isn’t illegal. So whether or not the labels get a cut of Youtube’s revenue, they’re still shooting themselves in the foot by taking stuff down. And doubly so for RB DLC; I almost never buy a song without having a look at the chart first.

2736

Who are these people? I know people that treat Youtube as an easy way to reference music for others online, but I can’t imagine anyone for whom the quality and encumbrance would substitute for some other form of “listening to whatever you want without paying”. Maybe they exist, but those cheap assholes who are incredibly tolerant of bottom of the barrel quality are probably not a target demographic of anyone. The potential competition in illegal use of music is squarely in the realm of p2p, youtube is a ridiculous alternative that could only be cited in the spirit of the law as CCZ did. Not because either of you are ridiculous, but a situation where record labels view what is at issue here as a threat or potential long term infringement issue is plainly at odds with material results.

When you factor in that YouTube is making money off these videos, and none of it goes to the artists, that’s when the lawyers get called in.

That’s potentially part of it, but I don’t believe for a moment that TW is concerned about royalties not going to the [i]artists. They’ve built their entire business model around royalties not going to the artist. Youtube, particularly when we are talking about RB videos, is at a quality and convenience level where it squarely fits in the modern slot that radio used to fill, and it should be embraced by labels with any shred of sanity.

2737

Fair enough. I started playing Red Lottery as a joke, something we’d inflict on each other after too much vs play of GH2. “Oh yeah, fuck you I’m putting on Megasus”. And for some reason it stuck, and I started to like it despite the fact that it is plainly awful. And the new single promises to be even more dire.

2738

I can’t recall Red Lottery at all, but the track L_K linked to doesn’t sound TOO bad. It’s only 99 cents, right?

2739

Next week’s releases, from rbdlc
[ul]
[li]Lenny Kravitz - Are You Gonna Go My Way[/li][li]Lenny Kravitz - Freedom Train[/li][li]Lenny Kravitz - Let Love Rule[/li][li]Lenny Kravitz - Mr Cab Driver[/li][li]Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives - Entangled[/li][li]Megasus - Megasus[/li][/ul]

2740

any reason you’re reposting this when it was already posted on the previous page.

Thanks, I guess.