sinfony
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I haven’t spent nearly as much time playing GH:WT, but my recollection is that there are way more songs that I absolutely fucking hate and that are terrible songs for a music game in Rock Band (e.g. whatever that horrible Beastie Boys song was in RB2, Visions, We Got the Beat, Creep, I Think I’m Paranoid, and so forth). In fact, while I vastly prefer Rock Band, I’ve never been able to understand their track decisions, especially the terrible lack of post-2000 music that isn’t either godawful popular stuff or bad metal.
I will also admit that I have no idea what the DLC scene is like on GH:WT; I would never venture into that dark realm.
willko
3862
There has to be some allowance for different tastes and skill levels in what constitutes a bad/decent/good/great song for RB, and Harmonix seems to hit more often than miss (although Visions does suck). It must be much more difficult to decide what goes on the disc because of factors like: group vs. solo play, evening out the difficulty tiers, and balancing the curve across all the instruments.
I’m also perfectly content to skip a week of DLC if nothing grabs me, but shouldn’t we be glad Harmonix has stuck it out and put up new DLC every week? It’s a way to check out things we wouldn’t have tried before without forcing us to buy it. Win.
I think most of my complaints about Rock Band would be answered if they institute the personal setlists or blacklists per track you’d never wanna play again or in a party setting (Visions, anyone?). Here’s hoping.
Also, could we get Divine Hammer or Cannonball by the Breeders?
I really like that Rock Band is introducing me to new music, sorry if you’re sick of people posting that things are new to them. I guess not all of us are as familair with such a wide selection of music.
I think you misunderstood his post. In fact, I do believe that you’re saying almost exactly what he was saying.
Oh. Sorry. I thought he was complaing that people hadn’t heard everthing in DLC and to stop posting about it.
sinfony
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Not at all. My only issue is when people say “I have never heard of any of these bands, ergo this week’s DLC is crap.”
In all this discussion it’s pretty clear that tastes vary pretty widely-- I haven’t heard the infamous Visions song yet (not that far along in career mode) but I love “Creep,” “I think I’m Paranoid” and “We got the Beat.” I’d love me some more Go-Go’s from that first album, at least the up-tempo stuff. The Beastie Boys song is pretty crappy though.
I keep wishing they’d come out with more Creedence or similar Southern/Classic late 60’s early 70’s rock. BTO’s “Takin’ Care of Business” for one.
sinfony
3869
I think that’s more down to varying reasons for playing the game. I don’t play rhythm games to enjoy the music as much as I play them for fun and challenge. Probably the best example of the division is playing drums on “Psycho Killer,” which is a song I really like, but will also be among the first songs to get deleted in the wonderful future of song exports to RB3, because it is sleep-inducing to play along with. Whereas I detest Fall Out Boy musically, but I love to play “Dead on Arrival” because it’s fast and challenging.
See, with me there’s no danger of the challenge being insufficient (I only play the guitar part, and struggle on some songs even on Medium, let alone Hard and Expert–blame it on my “old-man hands” as our own Mr. Green says), so the main consideration is whether I like the song.
I love that Rock Band can introduce me to new stuff. There are a few bands that I’ve gone from never having heard of to loving to death entirely because of Rock Band.
But for anyone who likes Rock Band as a party game, there’s a lot to be said for songs everyone’s heard of. No one wants to “discover a new band” four beers into a Friday night. They want to have fun with stuff they know, especially if you’ve got someone singing.
So yeah, “this sucks, no one’s heard of them” is a stupid complaint. But “I wish they balanced it more between popular hits and lesser known acts” is a valid topic for discussion (though certainly still pretty subjective).
I don’t necessarily say this. I do watch all the videos when they become available. I’ve just become much more selective lately.
I would NOT want to be at a party where they only play the “Mayhem” pack. Bound to be too many weirdos!
wumpus
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There has to be some allowance for different tastes and skill levels in what constitutes a bad/decent/good/great song for RB, and Harmonix seems to hit more often than miss (although Visions does suck). It must be much more difficult to decide what goes on the disc because of factors like: group vs. solo play, evening out the difficulty tiers, and balancing the curve across all the instruments.
I didn’t “understand” Visions until that Cannibal Corpse - Hammer Smashed Face song became available. It pretty much is visions!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svPS7QUCefE
Yikes, I started drumming the three Dead Weather songs on expert without looking at the difficulty. The first two are only three stars (or “difficulty 3” or whatever we call them) but threw me for a couple loops and each required a restart, mostly just by being caught off guard. Then I failed out of song three before I even had time to realize my despair. Ouch. I like the first two though.
Not really. I have a very high tolerance for death metal, and by “very high tolerance” I mean “I love it.” When I found out “Hammer Smashed Face” was going to be DLC, I was extremely excited, and the song certainly delivers.
But even I think “Visions” isn’t that great. It’s not the worst song in the game, (hi Linkin Park,) or the worst to play, (hi Beastie Boys,) but it makes a good case. I like there to at least appear to be some kind of structure behind the guitar, but “Visions” is relentless, not fun, and even to me, just sounds like noise.
I found the Dead Weather tracks to be great on the drums. Not terribly difficult, but varied. The drums seem to be the lead instrument with the guitar as a accent. No Hassle Night is devil tiered only because of the 1st 20 seconds. But boy those first 20 seconds are brutal.
(hi Beastie Boys,)
If nothing else, their song is teaching me to properly respond to those weird half beat bass drum hits that Rush, Metallica and Iron Maiden love so much.
Stop, Shackler’s Revenge is the worst song in the game. Linkin Park is a close second.
WarrenM
3880
How are defining “worst”? Chart wise?
