SCOTUS under Trump

Sounds like the Dems have filibustered. Here we go everyone! Hang on to your butts!

And the nuclear option immediately.

Four years from now: I don’t understand why the Democrats won’t listen to our reasoned objection of a Supreme Court Candiate. It’s sad that we can’t filibuster this unqualified nomination.

Psh, with Trump able to stack the court after a couple of older Democratic-leaning Justices accidentally sip some polonium tea, you’re still operating under the tragic misunderstanding that we’ll ever see a fair election in this country again ;-)

You’re kidding right?

The moment the Republicans lose control of the Senate - McConnell or whoever is the Majority Leader at that point will vote to remove the nuclear option and put the filibuster back in place.

It is almost guaranteed that if the Republicans are in the majority after 2018 in the Senate - if a justice resigns or dies after February 13, 2020 or 2024 (the same anniversary of Scalia’s death), they would proceed to fill the justice vacancy before the November election because their leadership are complete hypocrites.

You mean 3 nominees after the Dems pass an act to expand the court to 11.

The Dems would just undo the filibuster rules immediately and apply it to legislation. This is the day Dems finally grew a spine- we now have a new Democratic Party.

I look at it more as the Dems choosing to go with a future draft pick, versus trying to eek out a tie in a shitty game, which will do nothing but make their draft day choice worse.

We are now banking on there not being another 1 or 2 vacancies until midterms. We are also banking on getting our shit together for midterms. Crazy? Maybe.

Growing a spine is an apt term.

That doesn’t make any sense. A new majority leader is not bound by whatever McConnell decides to do. Even if he had kept the filibuster intact, Democrats could nuke it (as they have in the past). Now, it’s not even an issue.

Damn fucking straight. Plus it was just the right thing to do, as Josh Marshall of TPM puts it in this editorial:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/opposing-a-corrupt-transaction

tl;dr Not filibustering Gorsuch (or whoever was first nominated by Trump) would have been an endorsement of that snake McConnell’s bullshit last year.

Awesome. Next stop: legislative filibuster!

No, they already endorsed it by not doing a damn thing to stop it LAST YEAR.

There was absolutely nothing they could do to stop it.

Exactly how could they have stopped it, seeing as how they were in the minority in both houses? I suppose Obama could have tried to affirm that since the Senate leadership was neglecting its duties, that Garland was an associate Justice automagically.

True. What the Dems got from this is a causus belli to do whatever it takes to get their agenda through should they end up with everything in 2021.

2018 and not losing seats in the Senate is crucial now. Once you get your agenda in (and the Dems in 2021 are going to have to act like a NC State Legislature), federalism and court stacking can stall any attempt to turn it back for a long while.

I mean, assuming the Republicans
A) Ever allow themselves to lose again via voter suppression or outright fraud, because LOLRULEOFLAWWHAT
B) Don’t just go ahead and stack the court themselves because fuck y’all
C) Don’t start a nuclear war with China tomorrow

Well if the suppression becomes blatant- there will be civil war. The rich will lose in that scenario, as they’ll lose more money fighting it than its worth.

As for court-staking themselves, they just did it.

Nuclear War with China is the only real threat here.

They couldn’t stop it now, either, but putting a lame token protest about it now is supposed to accomplish something? “We tried to stop them” rings completely hollow now, but wouldn’t have last year. Saying that not doing anything now would have been endorsing what the republicans did in a joke.

Any defeat for the Vichy Left and its failed surrender politics is to be celebrated.

Agree to disagree, man. At least now McConnell’s hypocritical talk about “hallowed Senate traditions” is exposed for the flim-flam that it is*, and the Dems are no worse off than they were before. The gloves are off.

*said traditions were apparently only hallowed precisely as long as they were convenient for the GOP, and no longer.

Fuck them. They get nothing.