SCOTUS under Trump

gruntled · 2018-09-28T00:49:09.202Z

If he makes to the floor, I will be calling my R senator and I encourage everyone else to do it also, no matter how deep in the R they are.

Points to raise:
Kavanaugh obviously lied about several little things in sworn testimony, probably because he was afraid that truthful answers would make his denial of the big things seem less plausible. No matter what you believe about his truthfulness on the big question, lying under oath to the US Senate is not a trait that should earn one a seat on the Supreme Court.
There are surely many other equally conservative choices who can go through the confirmation process without lying.

Obviously not what I really want my senator to think (that will have to wait for the chance to vote him out and a D in), but points that can be made in a short phone message (without giving away my socialist leanings).

Enidigm · 2018-09-28T00:50:17.047Z

triggercut:

I believe women.

I don’t mean women coming out sucks. I mean this whole process that spins wheels and goes nowhere sucks. Just tactically, these last minute accusations are going to go nowhere, and everyone is going to get their hopes up only to see them dashed.

That’s what i mean by social media democracy. You’re not going to get elected representatives cancelled, not when their constituents are being fed the idea that it’s all a conspiracy against them. And not last minute accusations. It’s just not.

Imagine if 2 days before the election Hillary Clinton were accused of sexual abuse by a rando you’ve never heard of before. Is she going to get “cancelled” or is everyone on the Dem side going to call for hearings and investigations and proper procedures?

We can’t expect the GOP supporters to do less.

Papageno · 2018-09-28T00:54:08.423Z

Where the heck are you, that it’s already tomorrow (Friday the 28th)? It’s only just before 9PM EDT right now.

triggercut · 2018-09-28T00:55:00.129Z

Enidigm:

Just tactically, these last minute accusations are going to go nowhere, and everyone is going to get their hopes up only to see them dashed.

Cool. I’ll let her know that there are men on the internet who really are all for women, except they’d like her to not say a word about being raped because who needs that kind of thing in politics after all.

triggercut · 2018-09-28T00:56:07.092Z

"I believe her.

I don’t care."

Enidigm · 2018-09-28T01:01:59.145Z

triggercut:

Cool. I’ll let her know that there are men on the internet who really are all for women, except they’d like her to not say a word about being raped because who needs that kind of thing in politics after all.

We’re going to have to be honest with ourselves about the limits of social media justice, whether we like it or not. These things are intrinsically political acts when directed at politicians, whether we like it or not, even if the crime is true, and the victim is genuine and brave.

That’s why there was a hearing today, after all. They still had to go through the kabuki theater even if the outcome was preordained (if such as it turns out to be).

Papageno · 2018-09-28T01:04:18.080Z

This is my surprised face. :-|

Pyperkub · 2018-09-28T01:06:28.805Z

Enidigm:

triggercut:

I believe women.

I don’t mean women coming out sucks. I mean this whole process that spins wheels and goes nowhere sucks. Just tactically, these last minute accusations are going to go nowhere, and everyone is going to get their hopes up only to see them dashed.

That’s what i mean by social media democracy. You’re not going to get elected representatives cancelled, not when their constituents are being fed the idea that it’s all a conspiracy against them. And not last minute accusations. It’s just not.

Imagine if 2 days before the election Hillary Clinton were accused of sexual abuse by a rando you’ve never heard of before. Is she going to get “cancelled” or is everyone on the Dem side going to call for hearings and investigations and proper procedures?

We can’t expect the GOP supporters to do less.

WTF?

A confirmation hearing has zero deadline, elections do.

Come up with a better analogy.

Enidigm · 2018-09-28T01:06:56.908Z

Pyperkub:

WTF?

A confirmation hearing has zero deadline, elections do.

Come up with a better analogy.

Not the hearing today, his tweetpost was what i was referring to.

Pyperkub · 2018-09-28T01:08:27.730Z

No your:

Imagine if 2 days before the election Hillary Clinton were accused of sexual abuse by a rando you’ve never heard of before. Is she going to get “cancelled” or is everyone on the Dem side going to call for hearings and investigations and proper procedures?

Analogy is completely nonsensical.

As an example, Kavanaugh’s current appointment was delayed for years.

Enidigm · 2018-09-28T01:10:10.225Z

Oh, right.

No, there’s no way these hearings are going on for weeks or days. It’s absolutely on a timeline. They’re not going to wait until after the election, for ex., and it’s unlikely that these voices are going to be heard even past today.

Oghier · 2018-09-28T01:10:41.431Z

That’s that, then:

twitter.com

Elaina Plott (elainaplott)

Interesting: A source close to Senator Manchin tells me now, "Short of claims that definitively prove Dr. Ford's allegations or a realization that Kavanaugh will gut the healthcare law, Manchin will side with the overwhelming number of people in WV who want Kavanaugh confirmed."

1:00 AM - 28 Sep 2018 360 350

I assume this lets Murkoswki vote no.

dionisus1122 · 2018-09-28T01:14:47.267Z

I look forward to the next 40 years of Kavanaugh’s brutal partisanship finally flaying open the remnants of our democracy.

We pretty much have absolute rule by an immoral minority party led by an authoritarian.

Enidigm · 2018-09-28T01:15:54.245Z

dionisus1122:

I look forward to the next 40 years of Kavanaugh’s brutal partisanship finally flaying open the remnants of our democracy.

We pretty much have absolute rule by an immoral minority party led by an authoritarian.

I told everyone we had a 25% chance of splitting up on Trump’s election.

I still stand by those odds even now.

And frankly, splitting up might be the only solution.

Papageno · 2018-09-28T01:16:15.494Z

Wonder what the play is there. They all vote no or yes? Manchin (D) of WV and the three Republicans insist on an FBI investigation?

Ugh, n/m just saw that post above mine. We’re fucked.

Clay · 2018-09-28T01:16:23.211Z

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vyshka · 2018-09-28T01:42:07.735Z

Zing

twitter.com

James Comey (Comey)

Small lies matter, even about yearbooks. From the standard jury instruction: “If a witness is shown knowingly to have testified falsely about any material matter, you have a right to distrust such witness' other testimony and you may reject all the testimony of that witness ...”

1:32 AM - 28 Sep 2018 11K 3.8K

Papageno · 2018-09-28T01:46:16.568Z

That’s great and all, Jim, but your stupid letter to Congress about “her emails” 10 days before the election contributed to us being in this mess in the first place.

triggercut · 2018-09-28T01:47:33.039Z

Sucks that it’s gonna be Manchin who confirms him.

ArmandoPenblade · 2018-09-28T01:48:02.297Z

Woolen_Horde:

Armando, I need to send you some money for your travel fund to shit on senators’ graves.

The goal is to eventually map out a route between each and every Republican Senator serving in 2018’s grave and the nearest Zaxby’s to ensure a hellish torrent of watery greasy “oh fuck what did I just eat” shit for each and every last one of them.

If I die being shot mid-shit by some Republican Senator’s family’s loony graveyard stormtroopers, I will have died the greatest possible death I can envision for myself.

Papageno:

This country is fucked for the rest of my lifetime, at least. Welcome to the further “third-worldization” of the US, where everything is about how much money you have and who you know.

That’s been true since November 2016. Today’s just the GOP admitting it.

charmtrap:

If we had confined every registered Republican in re-education camps like I said to do 10 years ago, we wouldn’t be having this problem. Too late now.

You had my support, but alas.

Today was. . . a fuckin’ day. Ugh.