Enidigm
3721
I just an email from WaPo saying the vote has been made.
I know that Collins will vote yes but I want her to do the right thing so badly itâs still gonna break my heart when she does.
The cloture vote passed (51/49) about an hour ago. Full vote probably tomorrow evening.
JonRowe
3725
I think, despite everything, he is 1 of 9. He obviously doesnât belong there, as his tenor and inconsistencies during his hearing alone show that he is incapable of serving in the highest court of the land for a lifetime, let alone the numerous un-investigated assault allegations from his past.
But, he is 1 of 9, we traded Scalia for a Kennedy and Kennedy for a trash Scalia.
His vote alone wonât greenlight the courtâs acceptance of all of Trumpâs nonsense. Gorsuch said as much when he was confirmed, and I donât think 6 of the other 7 hold as crazy partisan views as Kavanaugh.
I guess I am at the bargaining stage of this now.
I am secretly hoping that McCain told his successor before he died to vote no on whatever McConnell brought as the supreme court nod. A final fuck you from beyond the grave to the GOP establishment.
McCain was alive well after Kavanaugh was nominated, and I donât know if he had any idea who his successor would be, but I do wonder if thatâs one reason for Jon Kyl being installed there - he has no reason to buck the party and as a long time GOP man, no soul to get in the way.
Hopefully the soon-to-be Justice Kavanaugh will endeavor to upend his reputation as a misogynistic partisan hack by making some moderate and even lean-left decisions, but I sure as heck doubt it.
Pack the court in 2020, I say. Fuck it. The process is broken. Might as well just take a sledgehammer to it.
CraigM
3731
Yeah, thatâs not remotely accurate I would say.
Oghier
3732
Flake reminds us that âmoderateâ Republicans are just regular Republicans who whine a lot before doing whatever McConnell allows.
If you were someone like that youâd hem and haw and furrow your brow about your âconcernsâ on the chat shows and whatnot, and then vote the party line at the end.
Enidigm
3734
One thing that has become clear to me in RL is that conservatives are kind of freaking out about protests becoming personal. They genuinely feel this is the long-awaited Step Toward Communism theyâve been pearl clutching over for decades. Tracking down politicians and protesting outside their homes and businesses is Not Ok to them, no sir. It freaks them right the hell out, and from their perspective makes them seem like the party of decency and civility being âassaultedâ by radical leftists.
Since weâre living in different realities now, i canât see this as something good, whatever the abstract âjusticeâ or merit of it all is. It just feels like more ammunition for whatever is coming.
KevinC
3735
Good, because it is personal. These are the people destroying the environment, depriving they and their families of healthcare, kidnapping children at the border, and emboldening racists and bigots across the country.
Damn right, itâs personal. Bring the fight right to their fucking doorstep.
Menzo
3736
Yep, letâs not forget they are the party of civility.

Oghier
3737
Couldnât agree more.
As others have said upthread, we may be headed towards 1960âs levels of politically motivated unrest and violence. If the GOP keeps the House and they continue along the current path of authoritarianism, donor-focused policy, racism, misogyny⌠well, the next few years could get ugly.
Iâm not talking about crazy civil war or secession scenarios. Those will not happen. But I do think this may be a good time to invest in whoever makes tear gas.
CraigM
3738
Like I said, they have insulated themselves so they only fear their donors, not their voters. This only resolved once they fear their voters once more.
And if they push so that they can insulate themselves from protests, from having to answer to constituents when making objectively shitty actions like this, from even hearing the backlash?
History tells us that erecting barricades is ultimately not going to solve this. Make it so the people canât be heard legitimately, and thatâs when the real nasty starts.
An essay by someone Vox called a leading historian on the holocaust:
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy/
KevinC
3740
Totally agree with you. The right wing media has been whipping up that side for decades, but this is the first time Iâve felt this kind of rising anger on the left. I donât see this ending calmly if we keep heading in the same direction. As an increasingly minority party, the GOP is going to rely to more and more gerrymandering, voter suppression, and perhaps outright vote manipulation. I mean, theyâre already in bed with a foreign dictator.