I just an email from WaPo saying the vote has been made.

I know that Collins will vote yes but I want her to do the right thing so badly it’s still gonna break my heart when she does.

The cloture vote passed (51/49) about an hour ago. Full vote probably tomorrow evening.

I think, despite everything, he is 1 of 9. He obviously doesn’t belong there, as his tenor and inconsistencies during his hearing alone show that he is incapable of serving in the highest court of the land for a lifetime, let alone the numerous un-investigated assault allegations from his past.

But, he is 1 of 9, we traded Scalia for a Kennedy and Kennedy for a trash Scalia.

His vote alone won’t greenlight the court’s acceptance of all of Trump’s nonsense. Gorsuch said as much when he was confirmed, and I don’t think 6 of the other 7 hold as crazy partisan views as Kavanaugh.

I guess I am at the bargaining stage of this now.

I am secretly hoping that McCain told his successor before he died to vote no on whatever McConnell brought as the supreme court nod. A final fuck you from beyond the grave to the GOP establishment.

McCain was alive well after Kavanaugh was nominated, and I don’t know if he had any idea who his successor would be, but I do wonder if that’s one reason for Jon Kyl being installed there - he has no reason to buck the party and as a long time GOP man, no soul to get in the way.

Hopefully the soon-to-be Justice Kavanaugh will endeavor to upend his reputation as a misogynistic partisan hack by making some moderate and even lean-left decisions, but I sure as heck doubt it.

Pack the court in 2020, I say. Fuck it. The process is broken. Might as well just take a sledgehammer to it.

Gorsuch is a Kennedy?

Yeah, that’s not remotely accurate I would say.

Flake reminds us that ‘moderate’ Republicans are just regular Republicans who whine a lot before doing whatever McConnell allows.

If you were someone like that you’d hem and haw and furrow your brow about your “concerns” on the chat shows and whatnot, and then vote the party line at the end.

One thing that has become clear to me in RL is that conservatives are kind of freaking out about protests becoming personal. They genuinely feel this is the long-awaited Step Toward Communism they’ve been pearl clutching over for decades. Tracking down politicians and protesting outside their homes and businesses is Not Ok to them, no sir. It freaks them right the hell out, and from their perspective makes them seem like the party of decency and civility being “assaulted” by radical leftists.

Since we’re living in different realities now, i can’t see this as something good, whatever the abstract “justice” or merit of it all is. It just feels like more ammunition for whatever is coming.

Good, because it is personal. These are the people destroying the environment, depriving they and their families of healthcare, kidnapping children at the border, and emboldening racists and bigots across the country.

Damn right, it’s personal. Bring the fight right to their fucking doorstep.

Yep, let’s not forget they are the party of civility.

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Couldn’t agree more.

As others have said upthread, we may be headed towards 1960’s levels of politically motivated unrest and violence. If the GOP keeps the House and they continue along the current path of authoritarianism, donor-focused policy, racism, misogyny… well, the next few years could get ugly.

I’m not talking about crazy civil war or secession scenarios. Those will not happen. But I do think this may be a good time to invest in whoever makes tear gas.

Like I said, they have insulated themselves so they only fear their donors, not their voters. This only resolved once they fear their voters once more.

And if they push so that they can insulate themselves from protests, from having to answer to constituents when making objectively shitty actions like this, from even hearing the backlash?

History tells us that erecting barricades is ultimately not going to solve this. Make it so the people can’t be heard legitimately, and that’s when the real nasty starts.

An essay by someone Vox called a leading historian on the holocaust:

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/suffocation-of-democracy/

Totally agree with you. The right wing media has been whipping up that side for decades, but this is the first time I’ve felt this kind of rising anger on the left. I don’t see this ending calmly if we keep heading in the same direction. As an increasingly minority party, the GOP is going to rely to more and more gerrymandering, voter suppression, and perhaps outright vote manipulation. I mean, they’re already in bed with a foreign dictator.