JoshL
4548
Needless to say, the court will only use this newfound power to stop the government from doing things like preventing climate catastrophe, having fair elections, or interrupting the flow of all wealth, power, and rights to a handful of Republican doners.
They will leave in place all rules that the government uses to jail brown children, punish political enemies with the power of the Justice department, and engage in nonstop profiteering from high office.
Good piece highlighting that the Court is basically always conservative. I guess the process of putting people on the Court more or less produces justices who side with conservative ideals - i.e. the preservation of elite power and privilege.
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2019/07/the-warren-court-of-the-60s-was-a-massive-historical-outlier
My guess is that Trump is trying to figure out if he can issue the Census with the Citizenship Question, and then issue Presidential Pardons to anyone who gets in legal trouble. It seems to be the kind of thing Trump would love.
ISTM that the government lawyers here are ignoring Robertsâ opinion. He told them they had to go back to the trial judge and provide the real justification for adding the question. Theyâre talking about thinking up another reason (therefore another pretext) and offering it to SCOTUS.
I donât think SCOTUS will listen. Theyâve already ruled on the case and remanded it back to the trial court.
And Roberts has basically framed the task in a way that the government canât win. Everyone knows that strong evidence shows the real reason for the question is to suppress minority votes. If the government offers any reason other than that, it is a lie â another pretext â and everyone knows it, and they fail to convince the judge theyâre telling the truth. On the other hand, if they offer the truth, itâs an Equal Protection violation, and the trial court is free to find that.
I guess the government lawyers have figured that out, but Trump hasnât. Of course the real question is, what if they just ignore the whole thing and add the question anyway?
At least as far as I can tell from Scotusblog, theyâre only (at this stage) asking the Supreme Court to provide instructions for the trial judge.
Ah. I wasnât able to get even that much clarity from the transcript of the hearing yesterday.
This is an interesting take on Robertsâ surprising opinion in the Census case and what it might mean for the Court.
Itâs maybe too much to be hoped for, but if Roberts could be pushed to some kind of judicial sanity by irritation at being treated like an idiot by the administration, that would be a good thing.
Heh, weâll see. This is the guy who developed the doctrine that some obscure law from 1925 could conveniently (for big business) be applied to most âtake it or leave itâ consumer contracts in existence and got rid of the legal right for them to sue in a class action. He knew what he was doing: protecting the powerful.
I donât expect him to stop protecting the powerful. Heâs a conservative, and thatâs what conservativism is. On the other hand, if he has a natural resistance to being treated like a fool or a lackey, and that natural resistance flares up in positive ways, Iâd welcome it.
ShivaX
4559
At least their Holiday weekend was mostly ruined in the process.
Sharpe
4561
One of the Twitter commentors in Rick Hasenâs Twitter feed put it this way: âDid they walk around Main DOJ with scooper full of poop and just ask, âWhose gonna handle this for us in return for a cushy no-show job at a conservative think tank next year? And short-listing for the bench someday?ââ
Iâve seen my share of scooper-full-of-poop legal assignments in my day but this one might be at or near the top.
John Paul Stevens has passed away.
Under what circumstances would someone have the standing to challenge the DOJ opinion that a sitting President cannot be indicted? And who would have that standing?
I ask because it seems to me that this policy spells real trouble for the future. It was bad enough before, when most Presidents felt obliged to comply with basic norms, and when, on the occasions when they didnât â Nixon comes to mind â the members of Congress from their own party felt obliged to at least threaten action.
Itâs worse now, however, because it is clear that the members of at least one party, if not actually both, do not feel obliged to comply with any norms except insofar as those norms align with their own ambitions. In those circumstances, the DOJ policy has to go, and that probably means it has to be invalidated as a form of legal reasoning.
It wonât be enough for a new President to take power and then try to force the DOJ to reverse the policy, for two reasons: First, no President is likely to ever do that, whether for good reasons or craven ones. And second, any policy voluntarily reversed can be voluntarily reinstated by a different President later.
So, who is challenging it? Who can, under the law?
IANAL, but I believe the DOJ sets the policy for prosecution, so itâs kind of like asking whoâs the Supreme Court for the Supreme Court. Thereâs Congressional oversight and also the Inspector General, but thatâs distinct from setting policy.
magnet
4565
Ultimately, Congress can. For instance, they could pass a law that prevents special prosecutors from treating the president differently than anyone else.
I am a lawyer, and this is correct. Prosecutions are an executive branch function, and the executive can exercise discretion as to what crimes are prosecuted.
Your remedies for a criminal President under the Constitution are impeachment, or more generally Congress refusing to work with the President to enact an agenda. I know that doesnât do anything to stop the problem you have identified, but it is how the Constitution is designed.