I don’t know why I’m posting this, because I’ve totally given up on this show. But tonight, the Borg are on Enterprise. Yup. The Borg.
I used to be one of the most fervent Trekkers you could ever know, but now I’m just totally apathetic now. Anyway, if you want to see Berman and Braga spit on Gene’s grave some more, tune in tonight.
Yeah, I saw the promos for this episode and sighed heavily.
If they find a way to “infect” the Collective and defeat them handily, it will become ever clearer that Archer is in a different timeline from Picard.
Troy
What, on the new show? Sheesh, are they running out of plotlines already?
Good to see Star Trek in the dustbin with Star Wars.
Man, that’s pathetic. They really are creatively bankrupt.
As terrible a filmmaker as Lucas is, at least he’s retained creative vision.
They have an out–it’s not really the Borg. At the end, they find out that they are actually trapped on the holodeck.
The one way they could pull this off without ruining continuity would be for the Borg they find to be survivors of the time-traveling Borg from Zefrem Cochrane’s time, from Star Trek XXVIII or whatever that was.
True, that wouldn’t explain Picard’s suprise at encountering the Borg, but remember, this is hundreds of years prior. If I met, say, the French Army from 200 years ago, I probably wouldn’t recognize them either, what with their aggressive fighthing stance and all that…
Is there now a written or unwritten FCC law that there must always be a Trek series airing onnn some crappy network somewhere. ST: TNG was great. I have tried and simply not enjoyed any series since.
Much of ST:TNG sucked too. I dare you to call any episodes from the first two seasons “great.” Blecchhhhh! And there was plenty of mediocrity in seasons 3-7, but there were enough “great” episodes spread across those to fill an entire season, at least.
(And c’mon, TNG WAS the show that had kids on the bloody ship. Oh, Great Bird, what were you thinking?)
DS9 got off to a slow start, but I thought the last few years (save the series finale) were really good – and more consistently good than TNG.
Enterprise is mediocre rehash, but it’s hella better than Voyager. Voyager was soo, soo very bad. Enterprise has at least had a few good moments.
I spent so much of my youth wishing Star Trek would come back on that I have a Pavlovian need to tune in to any new Trek series. But good lord, after the fiasco of Nemesis, you’d think Paramount would realize it’s time to send Berman and his crew packing.
Take the show off for a year and let me retool it. :-)
I can go along with the theory that as TNG got better I became spoiled and then failed to give Deep Space a long enough trial run. However, even when I went back to DS9 now and again, I did not like the stagnant setting of a space station. I realize they were not shackled to it throughout the series, but it added to my dislike.
Voyager: Blech!
Enterprise: I tried. Quantum Leap made me despise Fred Savage or whatever his name is. Bach…Manback…drawing a complete blank. (not bothering to google it) Lord of Illusions and that football flick with the mule were OK, but QL…ugh!
To use a lame comparison, Picard was sorta the Jack Bauer of Star Trek for me. No topping him. (Although number One, I have always thought was horrendous.)
No silly! They learn it was all an illusion, yes. But it was an illusion caused by a godlike being, who wants to learn about this thing you call love and who turns out to be a child.
EDIT: and looks human aside from bumps on his forehead and the bridge of his nose.
Is that what the new gig is? To diverge Enterprise’s timeline from Kirk’s?
They didn’t even really try to explain it. It was just like “Whoah! Here are some Borg in the Alpha quadrant!” and be damned with continuity. Where the hell did they come from? Why doesn’t Starfleet do something about it? I mean, come on–they even know when the Borg transmission is going to become a threat (odd, since in TNG the Borg didn’t know about humans until they met the Enterprise, at which point they beelined for Federation space at maximum warp). Did someone misplace the memo?
Lame.
What the hell was with the delayed reaction assimilation? Garrrrr…
Fuck Star Trek.
I watch, but to avoid being annoyed my rule is, anything after Gene Roddenberry’s death is not canon .
Same way I feel about Sherlock Holmes and James Bond Pastiches :!:
The did too explain it…
They mentioned Zephram Cochrane talking about the "cybernetic invaders from the future.
They mentioned it was a spherical ship that had been there for about 100 years – the Borg sphere from First Contact.
They were careful never to call them “Borg.” Even the radio call threatening assimulation left off the “We are Borg” part. Thus, when the Borg threat showed up in the 24th Century, nobody thought to associate it with a 200-year-old encounter with two unknown cybernetic beings.
The only real flub was the subspace message not matching well with the “Q” introduction to the Borg. But hey, there was a quasi-omnipotent being screwing around with reality there… Still, they should have left that part off. It was a cheap way to connect with the TNG Borg that didn’t really work.
At any rate, I thought they handled it very well, and it really doesn’t disturb continuity. The only real problem I saw was that the Borg should have destroyed their crash site on the way out – seems there’s a crapload of damaged Borg technology still lying around the arctic circle.
When you’ve been a Star Trek and comic fan for over 30 years, you learn how to plug the plot holes. :-)
You mean Phlox? They explained that – the nanoprobes were having problems with his physiology and it was taking them a long time to adapt.
Probably some slowdown due to the subspace chronoton radiation flowing from the EPS conduits leading from sickbay to the flux capacitors, too.
You mean Phlox? They explained that – the nanoprobes were having problems with his physiology and it was taking them a long time to adapt.
Probably some slowdown due to the subspace chronoton radiation flowing from the EPS conduits leading from sickbay to the flux capacitors, too.[/quote]
Get this man a scriptwriting job!
Who would win in a fight, da Borgs or continuity?
Da Borgs!
Daaaaaaaa Borgs!