What puppet? You’re the puppet.

Perjury in a matter unrelated to his public office is not a reason for impeachment. But perjury during your confirmation hearings? I think that’s a clear example of unfitness for the office, which is grounds for impeachment.

Since I feel you are dredging up the ghost of Bill Clinton’s impeachment and the whole crap about what a “High Crime” is, I’ll just cut to the source:

Federalist Papers 65 says:

“A well-constituted court for the trial of impeachments is an object not more to be desired than difficult to be obtained in a government wholly elective. The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.”

And from wikipedia, here is the historical reference.

"The impeachment of the King’s Chancellor, Michael de la Pole, 1st Earl of Suffolk in 1386 was the first case to use this charge. One charge under this heading alleged that de la Pole broke a promise to Parliament. He had promised to follow the advice of a committee regarding improvement of the kingdom. Another charge said that he failed to pay a ransom for the town of Ghent, and because of that the town fell to the French.

The 1450 impeachment of William de la Pole, 1st Duke of Suffolk, a descendant of Michael’s, was next to allege charges under this title. He was charged with using his influence to obstruct justice, cronyism, and wasting public money. Other charges against him included acts of high treason.

Impeachment fell out of use after 1459 but Parliament revived it in the early 17th century to bring the King’s ministers to book. In 1621, Parliament impeached the King’s Attorney General, Sir Henry Yelverton for high crimes and misdemeanors. The charges included failing to prosecute after starting lawsuits and using authority before it was properly his.

After the Restoration the scope of the charge grew to include negligence, and abuse of power or trust while in office. For example, charges in the impeachment of Edward Russell, 1st Earl of Orford in 1701 included many violations of trust and his position. In this case, he abused his position in the Privy Council to make profits for himself; as Treasurer of the Navy he embezzled funds; and as Admiral of the Fleet he got a commission for the pirate William Kidd."

The 1990s impeachment created a false sense of confusion as to the meaning of “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.” That phrase was a well known legal term of art used in the English legal system to mean offenses against a public office: failure to carry out the duties of the office, abuse of power, violation of the oath of office, unfitness for duty.

Also, lastly, dude you started this. As to Bill Clinton paying “a small fine” for perjury, it was $90,000 and he was also disbarred. So, whatever.

I think you have dramatically misinterpreted my meaning.

It wasn’t that his committing perjury was somehow ok.

It’s that I find it unlikely that he’ll actually be penalized for it.

Lying to Congress is almost never really punished.
I wouldn’t expect the ruling party to punish one of their own, especially not an ex-Senator (who they basically treat as Jesus Reborn).

So you’ve got a 3fecta: Often unenforced law, same party, Senator. Any one of those things would mean they probably ignored it. All three nearly guarantees it.

OK, I misinterpreted your post. I apologize.

As to whether Sessions will be penalized, well like the impeachment of Trump it all depends on whether the Republicans are willing to continue to “be concerned” but not do anything or if they want to enforce the rule of law.

There are two reasons why the Sessions perjury is a potentially significant issue.

First, the testimony was given under a sworn oath to tell the truth under penalty of perjury. Garden variety lying to Congress not under oath is not a crime, although it may well piss Congress off. But lying under oath, is a crime.

Second and more importantly, the lying is directly related to the office of Attorney General. He was being questioned, during his confirmation hearings, as to his fitness for the office and he lied about information that a reasonable person could consider germane to his fitness for office.

Impeachment is a political rather than a legal process, but there is a legal case to be made against Sessions for impeachment. Additionally, I’m pretty sure an Attorney General has no immunity from prosecution by the local US Attorney. Of course the local US attorney works for Sessions so…

As a practical matter, it’s unlikely Sessions will face serious consequence unless the politics shift such that either the Dems gain the whip hand or the GOP decides to throw Sessions under the bus.

I can almost buy that Sessions is being set up as a fall guy so that Trump can appoint a new AG.

others also

Needs to get confirmed first.

From July:

If Sessions takes over as Secretary of Homeland Security, Trump would have to appoint an acting attorney general before he formally nominates a new attorney general. That acting individual could be deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein or someone else who has been confirmed by the Senate. Since Rosenstein himself appointed Mueller as special counsel shortly after Comey was fired, it appears highly unlikely that he would dismiss Mueller.

If someone else took over as acting attorney general, they wouldn’t need to recuse themselves as Sessions did, absent any extraordinary circumstances. However, the regulations Mueller is operating under stipulate that he can only be fired with cause.

Regardless of who the attorney general is, “there needs to be a basis to fire Mueller,” said Andrew Wright, who served as associate White House counsel to former president Barack Obama. If Mueller is removed without cause, “Rosenstein and others would object, and there would be massive backlash from the Hill,” Wright said.

No, I reject your apology.

Now we must fight.

Just kidding, it’s cool. Shivax summarized my thoughts… I just don’t think that anything is gonna happen to him, because the folks who could make it happen simply won’t.

In terms of firing Sessions and appointing some acting AG, wouldn’t the Deputy AG just become the acting AG, until a new guy is nominated and confirmed? I didn’t realize that Trump could just put someone in as acting AG from outside the existing hierarchy.

Infamous alt-right Twitter gal turns out to be a complete fabrication of the Russians. This shows how screwed we are. Because of the way social media works, when people engaged her, even if it was to refute or ridicule her tweets, they helped promote her account anyway.

And there’s absolutely no way to tell the difference between a real person and a fake person on Twitter. There’s no lesson to learn here for anyone “duped” by this account.

“Will No One Rid Me of This Meddlesome Priest?”

I think the Trump faction must be a little freaked out by Mueller’s implacability. Dude does not get distracted, isn’t on Twitter, keeps his head down and laser focused on bringing people to justice. I bet they have no idea what to make of him.

Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are [indicted].

I was literally thinking of exactly that.

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Tick tock.

I think this was already linked here, but just in case.

Remember when Gates & Manafort requested the removal of their GPS bracelets and the judge said no?

NPR: Special Counsel Mueller Warns That Manafort And Gates Pose A Flight Risk

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is warning that Paul Manafort and Rick Gates pose a flight risk and is asking a judge to impose strict bail conditions on both of them. Gates and Manafort appeared before federal court on Thursday.
[…]
[Carrie] JOHNSON: Yeah. You’ll recall Manafort and Gates both voluntarily turned themselves in to the FBI on Monday morning. In fact, Manafort’s lawyers now say he knew back in August that he would be charged, but he stayed in the country to face these charges. Both men have pleaded not guilty. But lawyers for the special counsel say they worry one or both of these guys might flee the country before they go to trial. They point out the 12 charges against them from conspiracy to money laundering are serious. These guys have foreign assets. And they both have more than one passport. In court today, prosecutor Greg Andres said, we need to see some property or real estate or something that would insure these defendants are going to return to court.
[…]
JOHNSON: Judge Amy Berman Jackson is an appointee of President Barack Obama, former President Obama. She said she couldn’t understand exactly what Paul Manafort’s lawyers wanted. They appeared in court to change their position a couple of times. Finally, they asked the judge to release Manafort from having to undergo this GPS or electronic monitoring. Lawyers for Rick Gates, who has some young kids, say he wants to attend their sports games this weekend and be able to get out of the house to do that.

The judge has ordered the defense and the government to lay out their arguments in writing. But she said, I’m concerned - very concerned - about some of the information the special counsel has highlighted. And she thought there would need to be some really good reasons to release these guys from electronic monitoring. Everybody’s due back in court Monday morning.

Fascinating if depressing reading.