The fork is kind of a giveaway š
Clay
6256
Whatās up with this story? Have we discusssd this and/or is it BS or verified?
rowe33
6257
Doesnāt make much sense to me. Mueller has the goods to put everyone in prison right nowā¦ but heās just sitting on it?
I doubt it too, but even if he does have compelling evidence, he wants to be thorough in his investigation.
Timex
6259
He likely does have the goods on a ton of folksā¦ and I suspect that a few folks did in fact lie to him, unaware that he had emails which would prove they lied.
But heās gonna take his time, because thatās how he rolls.
Itās the slow knife that cuts the deepest.
rowe33
6260
Right, but if heās got then dead to rights anyways then they should just fire him now. More time just gives him a chance to be more thorough.
Timex
6261
He canāt fire him. Rosenstein would have to fire himā¦ and I donāt think he will. So heād have to fire HIMā¦ and then you end up in a saturday night massacre thingā¦
At which point itāll be difficult, if not impossible, for the Congress to keep ignoring it. And theyād just put Mueller back on the case. And itād almost certainly seal the deal for an obstruction of justice case against Trump himself.
As it stands, it could still be the case that everyone ELSE goes down, and not Trump. And I feel like Trump would cling to that possibility until the bitter end. He will throw literally EVERYONE else under the bus if he thinks itāll save himself.
Rightbug
6262
That was actually my take. Itās a way for the tribe to continue on in the face of whatever charges may come ā It was all a witch hunt by biased liberals. It gives congress some cover for not impeaching
Rosenstein said this week he has no valid reason to fire Mueller, and that heāll ignore any Trump request for him to do so unless heās provided with cause.
ā¦ But Trump canāt fire Rosenstein either. Only the AG could. Only Sessions canāt, because heās recused. Meaning Trump would need to fire Sessions first (or convince him to resign, something Sessions has shown absolutely no sign of being willing to do) and then find an acting AG from inside Justice willing to fire Rosenstein (and also come up with cause as well; Rosenstein isnāt a political appointee and canāt be fired at will.)
Point being, this is a more elaborate process than Trump making a phone call. Meaning these āMuellerās gonna get fired suddenly on a Saturday nightā stories floating around the Interwebs are mostly just paranoia until and unless we see Sessions head for the door.
(Of course Donnie might try bluffing by making a āyouāre firedā call, to which Mueller, knowing Trump doesnāt have a legal leg to stand on, would politely tell him to fuck off. Given how stupid Trump is, this has probably already happened. Probably more than once.)
the slow blade penetrates the shield
RichVR
6265
And now someone needs to shop Trumpās face on Sting saying that.
I will kill you!
He may be hoping to bait Trump into issuing pardons for some, which would lift their right to take the 5th and he can then compel their testimony.
This is comforting. (Not sarcastic, seriously!)
Miramon
6268
That would be fun, if Mueller proceeded to indict one at a time, with a pause of weeks or a month or so, until no one was left but Trump. Somewhere before that point there would be so much blood in the water the GOP would have no choice but to impeach.
But honestly I doubt thereās more than one big name left. Maybe Kushner if weāre very lucky, but Iām guessing just minor figures from here on out. And sadly, probably no cabinet members, and probably not Pence either, much as I would like to see the whole disgusting lot of them in prison. But you never know. Perhaps thereās some damning evidence of Russian control in there somewhere.
I got that reference! I feel pretty good about knowing that.
Sharpe
6270
Actually, he is. He was nominated by Trump and confirmed by the Senate pretty early on. Since he doesnāt have civil service protection, I believe Trump can directly fire Rosenstein, but if he did that due to Rosensteinās refusal to fire Mueller, that would spark this crisis even before Mueller is fired.
Youāre right, my bad! (I was confusing Rosenstein with Dana Boente, who was acting AG before Sessions was confirmed.)
ZeTh1
6272
Wow this emails thing Muller pulled is Columbo level badassery.
RichVR
6273
Mueller heads for the door, head down. Then he stops and looks over his shoulder.
āOh. One more thing, Mr. President,ā he says grinning. āAbout those emails.ā
Timex
6274
Yeah, I can imagine the final twist during the interviewā¦
"So, Mr. Kushnerā¦ Youāve been so helpful. Iām really sorry to have wasted your time. Iāll be getting out of your wayā¦ Ahā¦ one more thing. Just cause Iām curious. Did you know anything about </insert thing here>?
āNo, of course not.ā
āAhā¦ of course. Well. Thank you for your timeā¦Butā¦ thereās just one thing thatās bothering meā¦ā
āYa seeā¦ Iāve got all these emails you sentā¦ā
