Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (topic now 200% easier to find)

Thanks :-)

I’m already enjoying it more than I originally did when I played for 2 hours. I started over. I think playing Wo Long helped me prepare for this by being a parry-heavy game. Wo Long seemed more forgiving about the timing, but I still think it helped.

I just beat the Chained Ogre, which I encountered the first time I played, but couldn’t beat it. I already bought Nioh 2, so that will be another game in the near future.

I haven’t played Wo Long so I can’t speak to it but Sekiro has a very high learning curve, but it does become a lot easier once mastered. And when I say mastered, you have learned how to handle all types of attacks and basically know everything :)

Generally though, always be deflecting. Dodging can get you killed. Disengaging the enemy is suboptimal because for most of them you want to be highly aggressive and break their posture for a death blow. When I’m not deflecting, I am attacking, or Mikiri countering or jumping over a sweep. I almost never dodge. (unless it’s a grab attack, or a well known attack I can brutally punish by side-stepping).

In Dark Souls, you can learn a boss by only dodging, never attacking; in Sekiro you can do the same thing except you try and deflect everything. (except the perilous attacks of course you need to counter another way) Also as you might have noticed a deflect is nothing like a Dark Souls parry, because that triggers a riposte. In Sekiro it’s just a “perfect block” that does posture damage only.

It’s probably the only From game I can actually play through without dying now because it’s 100% skill execution but I wonder if that will remain the case if I am out of practice…

It is kind of freeing. There can be some grinding for skill points. I only do it if I lost a bunch. Once I beat the boss I may back track and kill a section of enemies to make up for me loss. If I get through a section clean then I don’t.

I’m very far from mastering, but I do seem to be improving in that I can encounter a new mini boss and sometimes beat it in a couple tries instead of a dozen :-)

I’m liking it a lot more than I originally did and I think I have Wo Long to thank. It was good training.

Yeah, that’s exactly how I felt when I started Sekiro right after finishing Nioh 2. :)

I’m kinda stuck at 2 different bosses, Lady Butterfly and some guy on a horse. I think I wasn’t too far from beating the second one. It sounds like gunpowder is good vs horses from what I eavesdropped, but I haven’t found a weapon that uses that yet.

Damn rogue you have really become the Sekiro master. I only beat the game once. I’d love to replay it again someday.

Well even still I think it took me longer than most to finally realize it.

It didn’t truly dawn on me until after I managed to beat the last boss twice in a row without breaking a sweat. Then I noticed other things like deflected Seven Spears attacks causes him to stumble around. Also he is fat.

The final nail in the coffin was how Genichiro becomes an effortless fight. All encounters. He’s literally reduced to just the warm up by the end. And I took down The Demon of Hatred again just for the hell of it after swearing him off forever up thread!

I think part of it is Sekiro hits on a specific nerve. It wants you to master it, and if you can’t, you fail. And maybe after 100 hours or whatever (YMMV) you actually do! Your third eye is wide open. You simply know “how to Go”.

If it means anything I still sometimes think at night about Sekiro.

P.S. The spoiler tags are just boss names. Wasn’t sure.

Phew, the guy on the horse wasn’t too bad - took 2 tries this morning after failing several yesterday.

Great job! There’s plenty of great tips for lady b around if you want to make it easier for yourself (I sure used all the tricks, you’re a shinobi after all)

I’m also at a horse boss in Wo
long, I just wish he’d stay on his horse 😡. I also realise I have too few health pots for where I’m at and that’s pretty annoying. Sorry to go OT

@robc04 I am joining you. I never finished this when it first came out. I just wasn’t good at it. But Wo Long has given me some counter confidence. Maybe this time it will be different… Good luck!

He was nasty!

Thanks! Good luck to you too.

I never died to the horse boss in Sekiro, even when I sucked at the game. Although I fought him after the old women who kicked my ass repeatedly. I guess I was already used to some bigger bullshit.

How could you forget his naaaaaaaaame?!


I’m horrible with names, even in real life. Plus he couldn’t be trusted. He said I wouldn’t pass the castle gate and I did!

He said you wouldn’t pass it as he breathed.

Unless you found some way to sneak by…

Nope, just overlooked that technicality :-)

I think I missed some bosses. I don’t feel like I’ve fought that many. I’ve been to Ashina Outskirts, Ashina Castle, Abandoned Dungeon, Senpou Temple and Hirata Estate.

The only Reflection of Strength I have is Gyoubu Oniwa. Lasy Butterfly kicked my butt. I feel like I should have encountered more bosses by now. I did kill a bunch of mini bosses.

So @tomchick while I was able to beat Wo Long, I don’t think I’m going to be able to beat this. I made it much further than I did my first attempt, but man, I don’t think I can get good enough for this. I remember even when I was a kid, if there was too much going on I was just no good at some video games. When they introduced Defender II, my brain melted due to the extra button(s).

Some of you people who beat this are around my age, right? I’m 53.

Oh, I saw that you beat Wo Long in the other thread! And while you may not be a Tim James or even someone who can get through Sekiro, you’ve got plenty of brawler/Souls-like cred with me. I think I bailed out of Sekiro after the first miniboss. It wasn’t even a real boss!

Yep, i knew you knew I beat Wo, I just figured I’d also let you know I can’t beat this :-)