Skyrim: mods and tweaks

godhugh · 2013-01-08T11:37:37.000Z

Post your load order as well. We might be able to spot something from it.

Arkon262 · 2013-01-08T14:35:45.000Z

triggercut:

When you updated SkyUI from 3.0 to 3.1, did you first de-activate 3.0, or did you tell NMM to just update to 3.1 with 3.0 still active?

I deactivated SkyUI 3.0, and then activated 3.1.

Load Order

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
SPIKE.esm
XFLMain.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
HighResTexturePackFix.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
WetandCold.esp
SkyUI.esp
DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
skyforgedShields.esp
Skyrim Knights.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
TwoRings.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
ForgottenMagic.esp
SkyRe_Main.esp
SkyRe_Combat.esp
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
XFLDialogue.esp
XFLPlugins.esp
Follower Trap Safety.esp
SkyRe_Races.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
WATER.esp
ReProccer.esp Active

godhugh · 2013-01-08T14:54:58.000Z

As a test, try deactivating Reproccer.esp and see if it loads up.

Arkon262 · 2013-01-08T16:25:53.000Z

godhugh:

As a test, try deactivating Reproccer.esp and see if it loads up.

I have no clue why, but it loaded up (This is with me reverting to SKSE 1.6.5 and SkyUI 3.0). Oddly I rebuilt reproccer and it now loads with that enabled as well…Why would reproccer.esp have been causing an issue?

scharmers · 2013-01-08T16:30:31.000Z

Arkon262:

I have no clue why, but it loaded up (This is with me reverting to SKSE 1.6.5 and SkyUI 3.0). Oddly I rebuilt reproccer and it now loads with that enabled as well…Why would reproccer.esp have been causing an issue?

when you learn this you will have achieved enlightenment

godhugh · 2013-01-08T16:57:31.000Z

Arkon262:

I have no clue why, but it loaded up (This is with me reverting to SKSE 1.6.5 and SkyUI 3.0). Oddly I rebuilt reproccer and it now loads with that enabled as well…Why would reproccer.esp have been causing an issue?

Figured that was the problem.

When you build Reproccer.esp it pulls data from other mods and these mods are then assigned as “masters” of Reproccer.esp. If any of those are then removed or their names changed you will get the crash you experienced.

For safety, just go ahead and rebuild Reproccer.esp (or any other mods that use the same tool, like ASIS or Automatic Varients) every time you make a change to your mod list. It only takes a couple seconds and will keep this from happening again.

Arkon262 · 2013-01-08T17:07:18.000Z

Thanks a bunch Godhugh, was really frustrated…now I need to try putting SkyUI 3.1 and SKSE 1.6.6 back in and rebuild reproccer.esp to make sure all is good.

Balasarius · 2013-01-08T18:07:58.000Z

Yeah, experiment with disabling the esps. Shouldn’t take you too long to narrow it down. Disable 5-10 at a time until the game loads, slowly turn them back on, etc.

Octavious230 · 2013-01-09T10:12:37.000Z

I updated to the new version and didn’t have any new problems. I have a bizarre issue where I crash every time in one spot after the first dungeon. My kingdom for a crash log. I’ll have to take out mods one by one until I figure out what it is. I’m thinking it’s gfx related so I guess I’ll pull all that first and see what happens.

Papageno · 2013-01-09T11:13:51.000Z

I had the weirdest thing happen yesterday, which I’m not sure is mod-related or not (if it is, I’m guessing it’s the UFO follower mod). Basically I was hanging out in Breezehome with two followers, Lydia and Vixen (from the Temptress mod), and after having them relax a while (curiously, only Lydia will actually sleep when told to relax, the other one won’t). I told them both to follow me again: dialogue “You know…: Time to go”

Well for some reason Lydia was slow to respond. I had to do the dialogue a number of times before she actually started following. And when she did, she walked as though she was drunk, totally stumbling around. I posted a couple of screenshots under my steam ID (papagenox). Has anyone else seen this?

She finally got over being drunk, but I don’t know if it’s because in-game time passed or if it’s due to some more dialogue I had with her.

Links to the screenies:

steamcommunity.com

Steam Community :: Screenshot :: Drunken Lydia

Steam Community: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Drunken Lydia

steamcommunity.com

Steam Community :: Screenshot :: Drunken Lydia 2

Steam Community: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Drunken Lydia 2

Papageno · 2013-01-09T21:21:29.000Z

Hmm, so I’m using Ultimate Follower Overhaul and it’s supposed to fix the “Lydia walks like a man” issue, but it doesn’t. I’ve heard it has issues with the latest versions of SkyUI, though.

Is anyone else using UFO and SkyUI concurrently that could comment?

Octavious230 · 2013-01-10T06:45:25.000Z

Octavious230:

I updated to the new version and didn’t have any new problems. I have a bizarre issue where I crash every time in one spot after the first dungeon. My kingdom for a crash log. I’ll have to take out mods one by one until I figure out what it is. I’m thinking it’s gfx related so I guess I’ll pull all that first and see what happens.

Well my guess was wrong. It was the scenic carriages mod. Not sure if it’s a load order thing, but I just yanked it instead of trying to figure it out. Would crash in the same exact spot in the woods every time. I quick saved right before the spot and messed with the mods until I figured it out. Wacky…

SlyFrog · 2013-01-10T10:26:22.000Z

If I’m three-four hours into the game (enough time that I really don’t want to restart), do I have to restart the entire game from the beginning if I install the unofficial patch?

It’s looking very tempting to me, because it falls into the line of a mod that fixes broken shit (as opposed to adding more things on, changing lighting, etc.). But I don’t know if I want to do it if I have to restart the game.

godhugh · 2013-01-10T10:29:24.000Z

You don’t have to restart. It works perfectly with an existing save.

godhugh · 2013-01-10T10:30:00.000Z

Octavious230:

Well my guess was wrong. It was the scenic carriages mod. Not sure if it’s a load order thing, but I just yanked it instead of trying to figure it out. Would crash in the same exact spot in the woods every time. I quick saved right before the spot and messed with the mods until I figured it out. Wacky…

Do you have Hearthfire? I know SC has a lot of problems with that DLC.

Octavious230 · 2013-01-10T10:33:37.000Z

I do and I remember reading on their page that it wouldn’t work with it. Silly me. I can do without it, it’s cool and all, but it’s not something I have to have.

scharmers · 2013-01-10T10:59:38.000Z

Papageno:

Hmm, so I’m using Ultimate Follower Overhaul and it’s supposed to fix the “Lydia walks like a man” issue, but it doesn’t. I’ve heard it has issues with the latest versions of SkyUI, though.

Is anyone else using UFO and SkyUI concurrently that could comment?

Using UFO + UFO DLC Expansions + SkyUI with zero problems so far. This is starting from a new game.

Papageno · 2013-01-10T11:33:35.000Z

scharmers:

Using UFO + UFO DLC Expansions + SkyUI with zero problems so far. This is starting from a new game.

Thanks for the reply–so how does Lydia walk in your game–does she stride around with her arms out, or have you noticed?

Maybe Lydia is set in stone, animation-wise (perhaps she’s categorized as soldier/guard vs. adult female), or maybe the fact that I installed the UFO mod and the Hearthfire add-on for it when I was already Level 15 (and thus already had Lydia in tow) made that aspect of the mod not work somehow. My own (female) character does walk more demurely.

And of course, there could be another mod conflicting, although I only have 6 to 8 of them going.

gurugeorge · 2013-01-10T17:15:22.000Z

Papageno:

Thanks for the reply–so how does Lydia walk in your game–does she stride around with her arms out, or have you noticed?

Maybe Lydia is set in stone, animation-wise (perhaps she’s categorized as soldier/guard vs. adult female), or maybe the fact that I installed the UFO mod and the Hearthfire add-on for it when I was already Level 15 (and thus already had Lydia in tow) made that aspect of the mod not work somehow. My own (female) character does walk more demurely.

And of course, there could be another mod conflicting, although I only have 6 to 8 of them going.

AFAIK Lydia has male animations set for her, I guess because she’s your housecarl, a rough and tough soldier. I think I’ve seen a mod on Nexus that changes her animation to female. Also, some of the “sexy walk/idle” animation replacers can change Lydia too.

Papageno · 2013-01-11T00:42:47.000Z

Ugh, well, according to the thread below I just have to live with it until such time as I start a new game. Somehow if you’ve already met an NPC, he or she is stored in your savegame and NOTHING you do can change certain characteristics like gender stance/animations. Pretty ridiculous.

The Nexus Forums

Q about some female NPC's man-like stance - Page 2 - General Skyrim Discussion

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