So, drugs in sport; good, bad, whatever?

Well, that was where I was going with my reply.

And I think your third paragraph touches on the big problem. It is already common for major school districts to drug test there athletes. I wouldn’t want to continue high school sports if it became necessary to drug up to compete. I think the NCAA is hypocritical as it is with the way colleges treat athletics and drugs.

That’s the same argument for all drugs and doohickeys in the grey area that people like and want to use but other people frown on. Where would you draw the line?

Re. effects on developing bodies: that’s the point of having it all legal and above board, and allowing doctors to get involved in monitoring, etc., then we get more data in and we know more how to deal with these things.

As always, there’s a sort of balance to be struck between people taking and doing things at their own risk and people being mollycoddled. The vast majority of people who use weird drugs or (e.g.) engage in extreme sports either don’t have that much of a problem with them or have a problem for a while, but eventually sort it out.

The balance is too far in the nanny direction at the moment - in all sorts of areas. Sometimes people have to learn and fail, otherwise the rest of us don’t learn anything.

That’s obviously going to sound harsh to the father of a kid who’s fucked up their life because of some enhancement gone wrong, but society can’t legislate to that fine a grain.

For me, the line is “will this harm other people?” A kid overdoing some steroid or something going wrong with some kind of future tech enhancement is obviously going to be a horrible problem for the family, friends and loved ones, but it’s not something society necessarily has to make rules about, until what that kid (or say the people involved in their training) is doing is harming others.

Would just move the line to whatever is considered too far for the doctor. All that matters is relative advantage over others.

Pretty silly from a viewer’s pov. Why do I care if everyone’s finish time is 10% slower or faster – it’s a good race if they are close to each other.

Just program the robots to specifically hit blerms and have done with it.

Then you’d be one of the people supporting unenhanced sports ;)

BTW, just a thought: does the bizarre relationship between slotting order of soldiers in the loadout screen and TAB selection order in missions not drive anyone else mad?

Like, when I’m in a mission and there’s no particular movements to be done “out of order” - e.g. I’m not in a firefight, just scooting along safely positioning after the “safe” move of the leader - I like to have a particular order to the soldier selection. Ranger first, then tanky/splodey grenadier, then gunner grenadier, then specialist(s), then psi, then sharpie(s).

In order to get that, you’d think that the slots in the loading screen (call them 1-6) would be something obvious and intuitive like L -> R or something. In XCOM there was a “zig-zagging” slot order (3-4-2-5-1-6), which was fine and made sense with 3 being prominent.

But in XCOM 2 it’s all over the place. To get TAB selection in-mission to line up with soldier slot-loading order, you have to start with 2 and go 2-4-5-3 for a 4-man squad, 2-4-5-1-3 for a 5-man squad and 2-4-5-1-6-3 for a 6-man squad. And I had to fiddle about quite a lot to discover that.

It baffles me that people don’t make more noise about how weird this is. What were Firaxis thinking with that order? What’s the logic behind the way they have it set up?

And why does it only seem to bother a few others? I mean, when you’re selecting soldiers in mission, do you just cope with having to TAB through to “find” the soldier you want? Like all that tabbing action isn’t felt as a waste? Or do you just memorize and use the specific keybinds for each soldier?

Since you are posting in the Drugs in Sport thread, I assume you have no problem with Personal Combat Stims?

Gaah, that was meant for the XCOM 2 thread ofc. Grrrr.

But no, I don’t :)

Russia has been gently touched.

Gotta say that took some guts.

Any bets on Trump demanding that Russia be allowed to compete?

I expect before the end of the month America will boycott the Olympics for no reason. After all Don vaguely remembers it happening in the past, so it’s totally normal.

The harrowing tale of Bobby Jenks

Wow, lucky to be alive. I can’t imagine my spinal fluid gushing out of me.

Awww, couldn’t have happened to a nicer country. But really, they should be banned until they leave Ukraine.

…except they already were hammered for cheating before the Winter Games and they simply doubled down on avoiding all the things they were supposed to do to clean it up. At this point, they need to ban all their athletes from participating, period. Under this “ban”, they can still compete under the Olympic Flag. They shouldn’t be allowed to show up at all, to put pressure on the people of Russia to stand up to their corrupt government.

Putin uses athletics as a source of national pride, and that’s why they cheat their asses off to win.

Of course Russia cheating goes way back before Putin. He is just continuing the legacy.