3057

Yeah, I wouldn’t break out the champagne about Bannon just yet. First, despite all the hubub about his doom, he’s still at the White House, with the same title, same security clearance, and same (lack of) responsibilities.

Second, even if Bannon goes, it still leaves Sessions and Stephen Miller. Miller’s the one to watch, really - not only has he avoided the Bannon kerfluffle, but he was also a Flynn fan and so far everyone has let his Russia-curiousness slide.

3058

As a bystander to this entire debate, it’s been interesting how the people arguing with you keep willfully ignoring what you are saying regarding that point.

3059

Yea, being against cold cocking some guy makes me a Nazi fan. Nice. I guess that free speech thing is just something I dreamed about.

3060

But they do have free speech. The government can’t stop them from saying what they want to say.

3061

Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from social repercussions.

If I cuss my boss out, I’m getting fired.
If I tell my significant other I hate them, they’re no longer going to be my significant other.
If I argue for genocide and “racial purity,” I’m getting punched in the face by Timex.

I’m good with that.

3062

Honestly, I kind of feel like I don’t even have a problem with the cops arresting you for assault if you punch a nazi.

But… I ain’t gonna turn you in to the cops for it. And I’m not gonna help them catch you. From a morality and ethics perspective, punching Nazis is the right thing to do.

3063

If we are talking card carrying brown shirt wearing swastika adorned Nazi’s walking the streets of Skokie then I guess feel free to punch them. If we are talking some nut on a street corner who thinks Hitler was cool then we are talking something else.

Should any black man have been fine to walk up to any southern racist and throw a punch. Or would a right to lifer be fine beating on an abortion proponent?

I guess if you accept the consequences why not. Just don’t assume everyone agrees with your choice.

3064

I would punch Red Sox fans as well, and Cowboy fans and of Yankee fans. Those bassturds all deserve it.

3065

If the guy is a KKK member, wearing a hood, and saying how the black guy needs to be cleansed from society? Yeah, I think it’s ok to punch that guy.

No, because the abortion proponent is not stepping outside of society to oppress and dehumanize people.

We are talking about people like Richard Spencer, who openly advocates Nazism.

3066

But"killing babies" man…they are killing babies.

3067

So maybe someone should kill him and really shut him up. Why stop with a simple beat down. Maybe some group should put together a gang to help clean up the scum like him from the streets.After all, he is a Nazi.

3068

I don’t think that his actions constitute a capital offense.

3069

So his words and deeds aren’t that kill bad, just beat down bad. Got you…

3070

I don’t think opposing evil people gives you dispensation to commit assault and battery.

If we examine the slippery slope of “what is okay to do to Nazis”, I see a line from throwing a punch at their faces to throwing a rock through their windows, to spray-painting a swastika on their garage doors, to planting a burning swastika in their yards, to throwing a firebomb through their windows, to beating them in the street, to stomping them to death at the hands and feet of an angry mob, to killing them alone in cold blood. Even though they hold terrible anti-American, anti-human ideals, walking on the same path just seems unneighborly, which leads to being anti-American.

Even getting in their faces, yelling and screaming, enticing or inciting them to take the first punch so you can swing back seems trashy.

Can’t we just talk about them behind their backs and ostracize them from the community? Have a bigger, cooler, and more fun march whenever they hold their marches?

3071

Scuzz, suppose someone showed up at your front door and inexplicably started ranting about how your father is a pedophile, your wife was a whore, your children deserve to be raped, and you were too much of a coward to shut him up. Now suppose your brother had enough and punched him.

I’m not asking whether you think your brother should be punished for assault. The question is, do you think his actions were even a little bit justified?

I don’t know, but maybe. And if so, that doesn’t mean you can justify punching people at random, much less killing them.

3072

Yeah. Like how we have different punishments for different offenses in our legal system.

3073

[quote=“Dan_Theman, post:3061, topic:126885, full:true”]
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from social repercussions.[/quote]
“Social repercussions” is a great euphemism for assault.

The difference between your three examples is that firing people or breaking up with someone tend to be legal acts. Beating people up isn’t. Should Nazis be fired? Sure, don’t see why not. (Or if not, their employers should pay the price in incredibly bad PR and other employees quitting). Should people break up with their SOs who turn out to be Nazis? I’d sure hope so, though that’s assuming they somehow managed to get into a relationship in the first place.

3074

Is anyone arguing it should be legal? I don’t see that anywhere.

FYI - it’s not a euphemism. Timex is a part of society, ostensibly delivering the consequences of advocating for genocide. Euphemisms are used to avoid “strong” language, and he’s been saying “punch in the face repeatedly” … well, repeatedly. No hiding going on, here.

3075

Well, you’re not wrong ;)

3076

Some Russian slang for you all.

Adidas, dress shoes and flat caps are the uniform of bydlos (aka rednecks/chavs) and gopniks (street criminals/petty thugs).