ShivaX
3820
Except for the times you were.
Again, I’ll take real freedom over “it’s literally illegal to offend some people.”
Arguing that it’s better to be less free is never a winning argument.
ShivaX
3821
And that’s the way it should be.
Nesrie
3822
The conservatives on my side of the family believe that the liberal mindset means some people work their asses off while everyone else benefits from that… aka, if I work hard, the liberals will just take my money and give it to people who won’t work hard. It’s tied to higher taxes, but a little different.
I share some of this concern, but not enough to vote Trump or some of the other conservatives.
And don’t get me started about the butterfly bushes here… which are now considered an invasive species because they’re strangling the trees in the national forest (oregon is largely national forest). That’s the government coming down and taking away my right to use my property and grow something… so, overreaching/regulation which isn’t only about jobs.
Timex
3823
As someone who considers themselves some fashion of conservative, I myself have developed something of a hatred of Trump supporters, and the GOP at large at this point.
And it’s really way, way deeper than anything I ever felt towards folks I disagreed with politically. I have the feeling that these folks are not only wrong, but they are effectively irredeemably wrong. Since they do not process information in a rational way, there’s no convincing them of any error. It’s like arguing with an inanimate object. It’s pointless. And as such, it leaves us in a situation where these people do evil, and there’s really no way to stop them from doing evil besides removing them from the equation. It’s not a good place to be.
*Pats the well-worn lawn chair beside his own*
Come 'n set a spell. . . comrade.
Timex
3826
I actually did change my voter registration to the Democratic party today, because I seriously do not want to be associated with the GOP any more.
I don’t actually consider myself a democrat either by any stretch of the imagination, but in PA you need to be registered for a party to vote in primaries, and I at least don’t feel ashamed about having them say “Democrat” when I go into the polls.
It’s worth noting that in the above scenario, the lawn chairs are blood red and woven from the injustice of the bourgeoisie.
Scuzz
3829
I think many republicans are people who don’t like change. It doesn’t mean they are racists or fascists, whatever people here would say. It is people who remember shopping down the street and now they need to know Spanish to do that. It means streets they used to do business on are now all Spanish speaking businesses. The world changed around then and they are not prepared for that. Some adapt, some don’t.
The world they grew up in didn’t just change it changed languages.
They are basically good people stuck in a time and culture warp they don’t know how to handle.
ShivaX
3830
Most of those people left the GOP after GWB.
As I recall the number of “Independents” after that admin soared and most of them were former GOP people. Hell, people like Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck took up the mantle iirc.
All that seems to be left is a seething mass of hatred of everything. The Constitution, freedom, blacks, gays, women, art, science. If they all died tomorrow we’d be lamenting the loss of maybe a couple dozen of them at best. Everyone else left already.
And there it is.
[quote]
“At what point does America get demeaned? At what point do they start laughing at us as a country?” Trump asked during an afternoon event held in a sun-drenched Rose Garden.
“We want fair treatment,” Trump said. “We don’t want other countries and other leaders to laugh at us anymore.”[/quote]
Oh, irony!
He does go on about being laughed at, doesn’t he. I wonder what the voices in his head must tell him.
Allegedly smart person who got on the Trump train is shocked and disappointed that Trump did exactly and precisely what he said he would do.
I catch your drift, but it’s not like Trump is a man of his word.
Plus, I’m going to assume Musk, like many other people, thought he might be able to convince Trump not to do what he said he would do.
Wonder if they will have the same kind of response to this as they did to sanctuary cities…
rowe33
3839
I wish the initials spelled SUCKITTRUMP but I’ll take it.
