So, I guess this time the people screaming “State’s rights!” are going to be on the right side of history?
I gotta say Trump’s election has got me reconsidering being a European Federalist…
I think it’s fine as long as we don’t adopt an electoral system that favors bipartisan politics.
I think of acknowledging climate change as an obligation more than a right.
Whatever the case, it’s a good time to live in California.
-Tom
I quite unabashedly identify as an elitist* and an atheist. I hope I’m not an asshole.
*Meaning I value expertise, meritocracy, high culture, and good wine.
Where is my like button? I need it!
If they really cared about the environment they’d conserve energy and turn off the tree lights.
Aside from wrecking the environment, GOP is busy turning the US into a police state:
And mandatory minimums gone mad (this also had support from a lot of Dems):
I’m not knowledgeable enough on what powers the states actually have when in disagreement with the federal government. I’ve always assumed that if the federal government wants it bad enough it will end up happening due to precedent of “We settled this shit with the Civil War”…
When you get deported (hopefully to some nice wine country), tell people you’re Canadian. :D
There’s actually plenty of precedent for this. From drug laws to immigration policy to Obamacare to, yep, environmental regulation, states part ways with the Federal government all the time. I just wanted to get a dig in about the Federal government shirking its obligation to address climate change. :)
-Tom
I never understood the mentality behind the “Climate Change is a Hoax” crowd. I mean, fine, OK, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary, you don’t believe that sea levels are rising, polar ice caps melting, and the entire climate of the Earth changing slowly over time due to man-made pollutants being released into the environment. Cool.
But does that mean you believe we should just say “fuck it” and pollute the shit out of everything? I mean, you can be a non-believer about the ice caps and stuff, but you can’t not believe in smog/pollution. Just look at pictures of various cities (like L.A.) around the world in the 1980’s (or China 20 years ago) and you can see visible evidence that pollution is real and has real effects on it’s immediate environment. Even if you don’t believe those effects cause long-term planet-wide climate change, why wouldn’t you be onboard with wanting to have cleaner air and cleaner water. Why is that a bad thing?
I can see corporate asshat execs and the politicians in their pockets wanting to deregulate because it means more money for them, but why would any normal man-on-the-street, even one who didn’t believe in the overall theory of climate change, be against a cleaner environment?
Because Fox News says they should be? Climate Change is for libtards?
Greenpeace’s message on the US Embassy in Berlin.
CraigM
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Pretty much. They’ve swallowed the load that corporate interests and Fox have shoved down their throat.
Solar panels should be illegal?
What in the -
KevinC
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stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it
We can only fervently hope these same folks decide to support the oil industry by applying copious amounts of gasoline to their “coal” before lighting their grills (while standing directly over top of it).
CraigM
3859
Global warming, pshhhh, I love the heat!
Famous, but potentially disturbing, picture.
