Well liberal-retards, guess it’s time to stock up :P
KevinC
1952
This phrase makes my fucking head hurt.
This is so weird to me. How can you campaign on safeguarding Americans on one hand, and then remove background checks for lethal weapons on another?
Is this your first experience with the modern GOP?
I’m just a Brit looking in. It’s not my first experience at all, but it’s bizarre.
So wait…the regulation they repealed is one that makes the Social Security Administration add to the “don’t sell a gun to this person list” the names of benefit recipients that are considered to have mental disorders so severe that they cannot manage their own affairs or work for themselves. So in other words, this rule was making it so your 89-year-old grandpa with dementia couldn’t trot down to the gun shop on a good day and walk out with an AR15?
And this was a bad thing because?
I am 100% behind Second Amendment rights. My family owns lots of guns, and my dad is an avid gun enthusiast who loves to shoot pistols and skeet down at the sportsman’s club now that he’s semi-retired. I like it too, it’s fun and a nice way to spend time with him. Everyone I’ve met there has been responsible and serious about their guns and gun safety. So why is it that many of these same people think common sense gun regulation is such a bad thing? It seems so simple : Mentally unstable people should not be allowed to buy guns, people with criminal convictions should not be allowed to buy guns, people buying guns should have to wait X days before they can walk away with said gun, just in case they’re buying a gun because they found their wife sleeping with their neighbor. For the avid sportsman and hunter, none of these simple regulations crimp their enjoyment of or right to own firearms in any way.
But what if the mentally-disturbed person is a TRUE PATRIOT? What then, Commie?
ShivaX
1958
It used to be the GOP was fairly ambivalent on both points.
Basically: Democracy and Freedom aren’t a safe bet. We might let a refugee in that does something bad. Your neighbor might do something bad, but such is the price of living free. Sometimes bad things happen. We’ll keep the really big ones away, but the little shit is just how it is. The gain of saving a refugee is far greater than the risk of taking them in. The gain of private gun ownership is greater than the risks of the odd crazy guy doing something.
Now they don’t remotely believe that. Everything foreign is terrifying and we should give up all our rights to be protected from something less likely than being struck by lightning. We need guns to protect ourselves… from brown people (secretly foreigners who live among us). But not cops anymore, because we need the government to protect us. Before we fight it with our guns.
It literally no longer makes sense, which is why I’m no longer a Republican. After becoming a Christian I found I could no longer be a conservative either (that and conservatism was dead and a lie effectively at that point anyway).
I mean Obama got shit for it, but the whole clinging to guns and religion thing kind of says it all.
I have kinda seen a real lurch to the… more extreme positions on these things from the GOP.
I hope you (as America at least, as you say you’re not a conservative any longer) get your Republican party back.
Quaro
1960
ShivaX
1961
We’ve been hoping for that for 20 years now and it’s only gotten worse.
“Ships fired several missiles towards the al-Maraqisha mountains, where al Qaeda elements are based. The ships are widely believed to be Americans,” said one official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.
“We have received no information on the outcome of the shelling.”
The United States regularly uses drones to hunt suspected al Qaeda militants in Yemen’s barren hinterlands.
The al-Maraqisha mountains are a key al Qaeda stronghold in southern Yemen. Militants took refuge there last year after Yemeni government forces, backed by Arab coalition aircraft, drove them from the cities of Zinjibar and Jaar.
(Really wasn’t sure which thread this belonged in.)
ShivaX
1963
Nice knowin’ you all. Personally I hope I get enough heads up to make it to a major target so that I’m vaporized. Seems better than death via radiation sickness, hypothermia and starvation.
vyshka
1964
Yeah, give the deranged guy who wants to know why we have them if we don’t use them more options in his toybox
JMR
1965
Fucking nuts. Do we know who makes up that blue-ribbon panel?
Here’s a PBS Newshour report on the danger of having low yield nukes because a crazy leader could be egged on by his crazy advisors to use them liberally. This was recorded back in 2015 when we all thought Cheetos Jesus had no shot at the White House.
Another on the upgrade of the B61 which has “dial a yield”
My understanding is that actual gun owners actually do overwhelmingly support these sorts of common sense measures.(?) It’s the NRA and the politicians who are using it as a wedge issue.
I put a question mark after that first statement because I’m not looking at data. I think I’ve seen surveys to this effect, however, and certainly it seems to be the case anecdotally with any and all gun owners I know personally. (I know I should look it up but, seriously, I opened Qt3 in a new tab 40 minutes ago so as not to interfere with my daughter’s homework and I now have 16 tabs open with two relevant political threads left to read and several articles I’m looking forward to so, not one tab more dammit!)
I wonder if I’ll get vaporized when they nuke NYC, or if I’ll be “lucky” enough to just get terrible cancer.
At least my kids will be safe, us having moved 40 min or so out of the city a couple years ago.
You guys down there are so fucked!
Too bad you’re going to take down the rest of the world with you
MikeJ
1969
But would the more right-wing gun owners still support a common-sense measure once it was presented as a dirty liberal trick, the thin edge of the wedge, etc? I mean, I’d look at seemingly reasonable proposal from the GOP with a gimlet eye these days.
Nesrie
1970
Remember when a black man who had a legal permit to carry a weapon was killed and the NRA has this really strong response… oh wait.
Then the NRA card carrying members were so angry they posted a few things on the internet and kept their membership.
This group might say they value common sense measures, but they seem to vote with both their wallet and their legal votes quite differently.
