So, nvidia's 9600m GT is worse than a core2duo at 1080p video

[Manresa]

@sharaleo

What’s this rubbish about 1080p60 not being a format standard?

Wikipedia disagrees.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
In July 2008, the ATSC standards were amended to include H.264/MPEG-4 AVC compression and 1080p at 50, 59.94 and 60 frames per second (1080p50 and 1080p60). Such frame rates require H.264/AVC High Profile Level 4.2, while standard HDTV frame rates only require Level 4.0.

Just because it is not used, does not mean it is not a standard.

Now as to the real point, is 1080p60 really so scarcely used, even on today’s Blu-rays, etc?

First of all, don’t ever use Wikipedia as a source, because it’s not. (The section you quote isn’t even referenced).

Second “Such frame rates require H.264/AVC High Profile Level 4.2, while standard HDTV frame rates only require Level 4.0.” (emphasis mine) implies that the standard is not really a standard. In fact, the 9600M was released in June 2008, before “High Profile Level 4.2” was adopted.

Third, I stand corrected.

[TurinTur]

Well, he is seeing a video downloaded from internet in a laptop, so I don’t see the point of mentioning a HDTV standard.

[Manresa]

@TurinTur

Well, he is seeing a video downloaded from internet in a laptop, so I don’t see the point of mentioning a HDTV standard.

Hardware manufacturers are more likely to design chips that support standard resolutions and CODECS than arbitrary video.

[mashakos]

@Manresa

Hardware manufacturers are more likely to design chips that support standard resolutions and CODECS than arbitrary video.

has nothing to do with support, more to do with horsepower and shader count. The 9600m truly sucked in both regards, but I didn’t know how bad it sucked… it’s actually not much better than my old nvidia 6800gt!

[TurinTur]

@Manresa

Hardware manufacturers are more likely to design chips that support standard resolutions and CODECS than arbitrary video.

But the problem wasn’t never that, it was lack of hardware power to move more framerate ;)

[cicobuff]

@mashakos

has nothing to do with support, more to do with horsepower and shader count. The 9600m truly sucked in both regards, but I didn’t know how bad it sucked… it’s actually not much better than my old nvidia 6800gt!

As mentioned previously but you failed to understand, the problem is more likely a main memory to video memory to gpu bandwidth issue than a gpu performance issue.

And shaders are used for 3d graphics. Movie playback is purely video transforms.

[mashakos]

@cicobuff

As mentioned previously but you failed to understand, the problem is more likely a main memory to video memory to gpu bandwidth issue than a gpu performance issue.

I didn’t fail to understand, I dismissed this idea because the laptop uses ddr3 @ 1333mhz (8gb in case you were wondering). I also had no trouble running 1080/60p video on my old core 2 duo (ddr2) with gtx280.
Then I checked the 9600m GT’s specs using gpu-z:
GPU Speed 500 MHz
Shader Speed 1250 MHz
Memory Speed 792 MHz :(

the ram on the gpu is slower than system ram?! This is a first for me.

@cicobuff

And shaders are used for 3d graphics. Movie playback is purely video transforms.

The way I have it setup, video runs on LAV which is configured to use CUDA. Guess what CUDA uses?

[ArmandoPenblade]

Isn’t GPU memory speed supposed to be quadrupled or something to get the real figure?

[mashakos]

@Armando Penblade

Isn’t GPU memory speed supposed to be quadrupled or something to get the real figure?

what you’re talking about is called effective memory speed and that’s what gpu-z displays.

[cicobuff]

@mashakos

I didn’t fail to understand, I dismissed this idea because the laptop uses ddr3 @ 1333mhz (8gb in case you were wondering). I also had no trouble running 1080/60p video on my old core 2 duo (ddr2) with gtx280.
Then I checked the 9600m GT’s specs using gpu-z:
GPU Speed 500 MHz
Shader Speed 1250 MHz
Memory Speed 792 MHz :(

the ram on the gpu is slower than system ram?! This is a first for me.

The way I have it setup, video runs on LAV which is configured to use CUDA. Guess what CUDA uses?

Didn’t mean to sound nasty but just wanted to let u realize that the older gen mobile graphics chips have a much lower memory bandwidth.

I didn’t realize the 9600m had CUDA support.