4237

But sure let’s waste another 100 or a 1000 posts clutching pearls over how hard it is to regulate FB.

4238

Make FB use the abovementioned tool!!!

Also, as this is a thread about social media, and therefore FB, and therefore about Emperor Zuckerberg, the following is appropriate.

Edit:

More appropriate:

Is FB the new tobacco industry?

4239

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And now, non-English social media:

Oh boy.

4241

White nationalists are okay according to Facebook, surprising no one familiar with Facebook.

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4243

I get banned for a week for saying police brutality exists, but Charlie does this and no one gives a fuck.

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I still have no regrets for getting a permanent ban from Twitter after calling the chair of the RNC a whore.

4245

Does the #freedomflu come with #freedomivermectin and #freedomventilators?

4246

I was joking with someone about the police saying to resist arrest. Basically the UK cops said if a cop tries to arrest you alone, get on a bus, or ask for ID. Don’t let them arrest you. Of course the person they’re saying this in relation to was a freaking cop so resisting arrest from this rapist murderer would’ve been resisting arrest from a legit cop. Because he was a legit cop with a cop ID. Also… you’re resisting arrest.

Basically: “Yeah, just resist arrest if you don’t trust the cop. And maybe you get beaten or killed.”
Twitter: “You just threatened this dude you agree with. That’s a death threat.”

That’s when I learned deleting a Tweet because you’ve been waiting for 5 hours for an appeal is also a confession of guilt. Which gets you locked out of Twitter for a week anyway. So basically always fight them. Also if you try to appeal after the deletion their entire system implodes and you’ll exist in a state of both appealing and being denied your appeal for 5 days. Then you’ll get tired of it, delete the non-existant Tweet (literally it shows an empty box) and then Twitter forgets you were ever being punished and you’re free. Because reasons.

Edit: That said I’ve said way worse to politicians and never gotten in trouble. It’s always for something utterly stupid where the bot thinks that wishing death on a Monster Hunter monster is suggesting self harm. Normally it’s been resolved in like 3 minutes. If calling people whores, traitors, and the like was a bannable offense I’d probably need a new account every week.

4247

My story is less fancy.

The RNC chair was sucking Trump’s dick on Twitter, and I said, “Ronna McDaniels is a whore.”

Because, you know, she totally sold herself for money.

Although now that I think about it, I can’t remember if that was what got me Perma banned from Twitter, or if it was when I asked Sean Hannity is he was mentally retarded.

It was one of those things, and I regret nothing.

4248

Nothing wrong with being white.

Nothing wrong with being a nationalist.

:P

Tongue firmly in cheek, incase you were wondering.

4249

Wouldn’t that mean that, technically, freedom is a disease?

4250

Here’s an attempt to come at the algorithm issue. This still feels like it would get struck down as unconstitutional. I’m not sure how you argue that Facebook isn’t allowed to use whatever legal method it wants to choose what to put on the site.

4251

I think the argument isn’t that they can’t use whatever they want to choose content. The argument is that if they do, they’ve chosen the content, and they have liability for it, like any publisher who chooses to publish content.

4252

Yeah, as soon as Facebook puts its fingers on the scale and takes remuneration for privileging some content over others, it’s effectively advertising, and can be regulated under statutes that regulate advertising.

4253

Yeah, OK, fair. That seems reasonable to me.

4254

As Berin Szoka notes in a Twitter thread about the bill, this bill from Democrats, actually gives Republican critics of 230 exactly what they wanted: a tool to launch a million “SLAM” suits – Strategic Lawsuits Against Moderation. And, as such, he notes that this bill would massively help those who use the internet to spread baseless conspiracy theories, because THEY WOULD NOW GET TO SUE WEBSITES for their moderation choices. This is just one example of how badly the drafters of the bill misunderstand Section 230 and how it functionally works. It’s especially embarrassing that Rep. Eshoo would be a co-sponsor of a bill like this, since this bill would be a lawsuit free-for-all for companies in her district.

“Information specific to an individual” could include things like… location. I’ve seen some people suggest that Yelp’s recommendations wouldn’t be covered by this law because they’re “generalized” recommendations, not “personal ones” but if Yelp is recommending stuff to me based on my location (kinda necessary) then that’s now information specific to me, and thus no more 230 for the recommendation.

Meanwhile, if this passes, Facebook will be laughing. The services that have successfully taken a bite out of Facebook’s userbase over the last few years have tended to be ones that have a better algorithm for recommending things: like TikTok. The one Achilles heel that Facebook has – it’s recommendations aren’t as good as new upstarts – gets protected by this bill.

Almost nothing here makes any sense at all. It misunderstands the problems. It misdiagnoses the solution. It totally misunderstands Section 230. It creates massive downside consequences for competitors to Facebook and to users. It enables those who are upset about moderation choices to sue companies (helping conspiracy theorists and misinformation peddlers). I can’t see a single positive thing that this bill does. Why the hell is any politician supporting this garbage?

4255

The Constitution won’t allow non-content-neutral exceptions to Section 230, and classifying stuff as “harmful” is non-content-neutral by definition.

Also, enforcing speech restrictions with the threat of liability litigation is essentially the same strategy as Texas’ abortion ban, which sensible people rightly decry.

4256

Speech restrictions are already enforced by the threat of liability litigation, aren’t they?