I have to say the Google Glass was the first thing I noticed in that photo.
Alex jones - what a sniveling douchebag
It appears that the Weekly Standard was added to Facebookâs roster of âfact-checkingâ outlets as part of a deliberate effort to pander to conservatives. A source told the news outlet Quartz that Facebookâs partnership with The Weekly Standard was part of an effort to âappease all sides.â
Earlier this year, Facebook also hired Republican Sen. John Kyl of Arizona to lead an âauditâ of alleged âliberal bias at the expense of conservative voicesâ at the social media juggernaut. Kyl, according to Vice, âwas regularly ranked among the countryâs most conservative senators when he served from 1995 to 2013.â He was recently appointed to serve out the remainder of the late Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) term in office.
Think progressâs article was in fact factually inaccurate, as much as they want to pretend it wasnât.
Kavenaugh didnât say what they suggested.
He said other stuff, which could be interpreted as having that meaning, but he didnât actually say what they said he did, in the title of their article.
Having a conservative outlet fact checking stuff on the left isnât bad. And that articleâs title is objectively false.
Given how vague a term âsaidâ is, your post is objectively false. They didnât claim to be quoting him; they were paraphrasing accurately.
He did not have texual relations with that quotation.
But itâs not really.
When you are talking about a guyâs confirmation hearing, then it means he actually said something.
Not, âhe said things which I believe can be interpreted to mean xâ.
Those two things are not equivalent.
One is a statement of fact, the other is a subjective opinion.
Heaven forbid they be dissuaded from clickbait headlines.
âSaidâ is not vague at all. Itâs just false. You are giving the author a pass, and saying that she didnât actually mean what she literally wrote, because you happen to agree with her opinion.
Just like Facebook uses left leaning fact checkers to check conservative sources.
Except they arenât.
And youâre splitting hairs. They were making a logical inference from his statements and writings.
Itâs academic anyway, of course heâd vote to overturn Roe.
Heâs a political operative masquerading as a judge.
Again, itâs not going to hurt to have someone fact checking the stuff from a conservative irrespective. You donât benefit from having a partisan blind spot. The other fact checkers that Facebook has have, and will continue to call right wing sources or when they lie.
No.
This is not something as simple as a transitive property.
They were expressing a subjective opinion. Kavanaugh didnât say what they said he did.
They were saying something which was false, as clickbait. They can do better.
Your argument is silly. Those same fact checkers can check liberal sources too. They are pandering to conservatives screaming how they are victims. They do that shit constantly.
Kavanaugh cited in his confirmation hearing the â Glucksberg testâ â which refers to Washington v. Glucksberg , a 1997 Supreme Court decision establishing that the Constitution does not protect a right to physician-assisted suicide. Under Glucksberg , courts should determine which rights are protected by the Constitution by asking which rights are âdeeply rooted in this Nationâs history and tradition.â
Kavanaugh also said in 2017 that âeven a first-year law student could tell you that the Glucksberg âs approach to unenumerated rights was not consistent with the approach of the abortion cases such as Roe vs. Wade in 1973, as well as the 1992 decision reaffirming Roe , known as Planned Parenthood vs. Casey .â
That right there tells you that in the context of his view on settled law, vs âcorrectlyâ settled law that there is no compulsion for the Supreme Court to uphold settled law that is not âcorrectlyâ settled law, and that in fact he would rule to overturn Roe.
Now ThinkProgress is often guilty of exaggerating their headlines and even their analysis, so in many cases they are wrong. In this case, âfactually inaccurateâ isnât well accurate. That said they could have said âstrongly implied.â
And what happens when the Weekly standard is lying? What then?
I understand their opinion. Iâm not even arguing that itâs wrong.
But itâs an OPINION. It is not a fact. They stated, in the clickbait title of their article, that he said something. He didnât. Itâs factually inaccurate.
This is a major problem with ânewsâ these days. That articleâs title was trash. Donât give them a pass on it.
Presumably they would get called as such by the other fact checkers?
The point is Timex the Weekly Standard shouldnât be used as a fact checker just to appease âaggrievedâ Conservatives. Those other fact checkers could have been used on the TP piece. But no, conservatives need to have a conservative fact checker when there is no liberal or left leaning fact checker.
Congress did this same shit with the IRS and despite that turning out to be a pile of bullshit itâs still cited as proof of bias against conservatives.
I agree that clickbait headlines are bad regardless of the partisan leaning of the source.
If they Mark something as false thatâs not, then there can be criticism.
But this wasnât it. Think progress made a false statement in the headline of their article. And being called on it isnât bad. Itâll make them better.
Iâve been thinking about this.
I think the point of the title is irony. Of course if BK had actually literally said that, then that would be headline news and of course âno one noticedâ wouldnât apply. BK "all but saidâ or âdrew direct inferenceâ is a clunky headline for a piece that otherwise had validity.
But bad headlines are bad, so Iâll concede that.
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I still think itâs bullshit they feel the need to use a conservative fact checker. Why? Why arenât the four other fact checkers sufficient?
Facebook said the article is false. Itâs not. The headline is false.
There doesnât seem to be a difference to them. Now I agree TP should change the headline.
These writers have done a lot of good work. But in this case, theyâre mistaken. This is a matter of fact, not ideology. On Facebook, headlines are far more visible and widely read than articles are. The headline on the ThinkProgress article was false. Kavanaugh didnât say he would kill Roe . And the Standard was right to point this out.
The Standard has offered to withdraw the âfalseâ rating if ThinkProgress changes its headline
If you have a headline which is false, your article is false.
Thatâs like tactic number one of bullshit fake news.
Think progress is in the wrong here, and notorious right wing hack site Slate broke it down in detail.
Thereâs no reason for anyone to be defending thinkprogress on this one.
Edit:
Never mind.
Mulling it over, the Slate piece is (mostly) correct.