I was actually hoping that that kid would turn out to be Kirk, rather than the little shit in the car. As it was written, Kirk ended up coming off as a pretty loathsome guy, and not admirable in the least. His character also had by far the weakest actor of the reboot cast, which didn’t help.
Fortunately, the rest of the cast really was great, and they took up the slack. It’s a testament to their acting and delivery that they were able to make the scripts responses to Kirk’s actions sound reasonable.
Really I thought Pine did a fantastic job, and I dont see Krik comming off as loathsome at all, he comes off as someone trying to save the ship.
Yes. I think Pine did an excellent job of channeling the essence of Kirk. Pine did NOT fall into the trap of playing Shatner playing Kirk. At the end of the day, Kirk was Kirk and you knew him and it wasn’t like “who the hell is this guy trying to be Kirk.” Pine felt quite familiar in the role by the end.
Overheard as I’m leaving the theatre:
Nerd #1: Man, it was so good!
Nerd #2: Totally. […] And Spock bangs Uhura!
Nerd #1: Haha, yeah.
-Contented Silence-
Nerd #1: Don’t Vulcans only get horny once every seven years?
Nerd #2: Yeah… but how long does it last?
Nerd #1: Like, one episode?
Talk about a cliffhanger!
I couldn’t disagree more with this - Pine and his character were the best things about the movie for me. Smart, confident, loyal actually courageous instead of wishy-washy and weak – likes fighting and womanizing – Yep, my kind of hero.
That scene with kid Kirk can go straight to hell though – completely unnecessary, goofy, implausible, contradicts previous canon needlessly – the movie just would have been much better without that sequence.
CSL
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I’ll agree with unnecessary and goofy. But how is it a) implausible or b) contradicts canon?
It doesn’t seem that implausible for one, little Kirk steals his stepdads antique car and wrecks it and how can it possibly contradict canon since it occurs over a decade after the alternate universe was formed.
Yeah, but at least we know why he’s so good at hanging off of ledges. He has magic fingers!
MikeJ
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They were probably on a sort of field trip to see the Enterprise under construction.
Kirk was raised in Iowa, and Bones was just a country doctor. That’s why they were in Iowa.
You guys realize this dumb nitpicking is going to make the new cast hate us just as much as the old cast does, right?
That blog post was based off the trailer, which did not show young Kirk slamming on the brakes and turning the car into a slide before he jumps out of the car. It might still be implausible, but not as implausible as it looked in the trailer.
Hugin
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Remember, these people are living in a world with transporters and orbital shuttles. Physical distance between cities, or Starfleet facilities or whatever, would be very collapsed for them, compared to us. We also might have caught them at the end of a semester break or whatever.
Also, to see the world-famous Great Ditch of Iowa.
Just saw it tonight and really enjoyed it. Still, I feel a confused about what this means for the continuity. Is Picard still out there, continuing his adventures after hearing about Spock’s disappearance?
I’m also sad about Vulcan, but even sadder about the loss of the new, pixie-like Amanda. Trek needs Winona Ryder!
They never showed her actually dying, just falling with the ledge in mid beam-out. Then the whole planet got sucked into a black hole. They could have a whole separate movie where Spock gets weird messages from across the space-time continuum and eventually figures out it’s his mom, trapped in some quasi-suspended state somewhere on the other side of the black hole. Star Trek 3 : The Search for Spock’s Mom.
Re: Pine, Shatner and Kirk, I did like that we got one good long Shatner-y “Spoooo-ck” out of him (in the scene where Spock steals Spock Prime’s ship).
Yes, the original universe is unchanged. In the original universe, everything happened exactly as the previous series / movies / etc. claimed. The only things added to that universe are that a) Ambassador Spock disappeared into a black hole, and b) Romulus has been destroyed. I don’t know if people have decided those events are canon yet though.
Y’know… If we’re supposed to accept the events of Nemesis as canon, I think I’m OK with Romulus being obliterated! (Remus delenda est, while we’re at it.)
Also, Spock’s Mom is an android.
It’s true that it occurs after the creation of the alternate reality, so they basically have carte blanche to change anything, but the original series made a point of showing that Kirk knew nothing of cars so it just annoys fans of the series.
Everything about the scene seemed implausible - the “classic” music, the giant cliff in Iowa, a kid too small to touch the pedals racing around like an F1 veteran, the retarded physics of his jump to freedom.
Just an awful scene.
