Oh, almost certainly. But would it have looked as awesome as hurling a sports car off a cliff? I’m pretty sure Abrams swiped a page from Michael Bay’s book on directing: anything - plot, logic, even geography - can be sacrificed as long as it looks awesome.
Awesome.
There’s no capitalism in the Federation - artists can’t be compensated and so stop creating new works.
Everyone is stuck with the music created prior to.
Kirk Prime grew up with his father still alive to see him graduate. Kirk Pine grew up with a stepdad who had a two hundred year old car.
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Besides, it was excellent use of the beastie boys and the cop stepping in time to the music was fun. Why do you hate fu—end of line
Yes. After the movie I was left with the impression that it was a Michael Bay movie- but from an alternate universe where Michael Bay makes good movies, if that makes any sense.
Actually…it does. Fortunately, Abrams swiped the page about looking awesome and not the one about making shitty movies.
So I finally saw this last night (which was quite an enjoyable outing apart from the part where my car refused to start and had to be towed), and I was fucking blown away. My immediate reaction was “They need to make this into a new TV series RIGHT FUCKING NOW.” I loved all of the new cast (except Chekov) and the way that they fell on a continuum from complete revamps of the character (Scotty in particular) to scarily accurate reimaginings of the original (Karl Urban is DeForest Kelley, plain and simple). I loved their willingness to make major changes, like the annihilation of Vulcan, without a need to hand-wave it back to the status quo at the end through various wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey means. I loved the visual style of Starfleet, with the 60s aesthetic tweaked and streamlined without losing its heart.
The science was especially painful, even by Star Trek standards, and there were some pretty bad plot holes. But overall, I think it’s a long-overdue step in the right direction.
A couple of random observations:
I could not stop laughing during the “Sabotage” sequence, both because I couldn’t believe they’d do such a ridiculous insertion of a modern song, and because I couldn’t stop thinking about Futurama. “Fry, you can’t just sit around all day and listen to classical music!” Before someone mentions it, Zefram Cochrane gets a pass for “Magic Carpet Ride” because it seemed to fit with his character. No ten-year-old (or however old Kirk was supposed to be) hellion is going to be rocking out to a song 250 years older than him.
I really, really like the idea of Vulcan being destroyed. Not only does it have a lot of potential new character development for Spock, it deprives the Federation of their center of scientific advancement, and means that the general supremacy of the Federation is much more precarious. Plus, it allows for some interesting possibilities with the 10,000 displaced Vulcans and what will happen to them politically and culturally. I can kind of see them doing a story with them as Space Jews (not to be confused with Jews in Space, a la Mel Brooks).
Wasn’t there an episode of TNG where Picard explained that since the invention of the replicator, no one needed to work anymore, so people ended up just doing what the loved/did best, and the work is it’s own reward?
Don’t be silly - the only reason anyone becomes an artist is for the expectation of financial security.
I kind of hope they do a “season six” of Futurama just so we can see what Futurama’s NuTrek jokes will be. (I guess I’m easily amused.)
His step dad had the 250 year old car, which I assume had a 250 year old MP3 player with 250 year old tracks.
Nah. There is no shaming in wanting more Futurama =)
Bender’s Game (I think) had a joke about Bakula killing the franchise, so they’re trying to keep up when they can.
Which never made much sense. Even in a future Utopia somebodies still gotta do the shit jobs, I doubt the “work is it’s own reward” for them.
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And so, all capitalists are criminals, thus the Orion Crime Syndicate.
Yeah, delivered by George Takei, no less.
Though, honestly, the bit with Scotty and Admiral Archer’s prize beagle was pretty close to a Futurama joke itself…
Ewww, you got Doctor Who reboot in my Star Trek reboot.
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I actually thought I was watching Futurama during the whole Chekhov gag.
Walter Koenig: When we woke up, we had these bodies.
Fry: Say it in Russian.
Walter Koenig: [groans] Ven we voke up, we had these wodies.
Fry: [delighted] WheeEEEEE!!! Now say “nuclear wessels”.
Walter Koenig: NO.
Most shit jobs that we imagine today would be covered by automation. The rest, the sort that would require human intelligence, would feature an avenue of promotion.
You have to start from the demand angle - what would people want done that couldn’t be handled by a robot or offer some path to more important career options? Whatever you come up with, there would have to be some other means to coerce them than economics, since both fabrication and information are accessible enough to make them essentially free.
I love this subject. I’m fascinated by the concept.
I happen to think “timey-wimey” is the most genius term ever to come along as relates to time-travel and its inherent ridiculousness, so I use it every chance I get.
