I see your point, but I still think they could’ve conveyed that in a less gratuitous manner. Or at least in a scene that told us more than “Delinquent hellion with daddy and authority issues.”

Basically it felt like a scene that was written specifically for the trailers. Especially with the “James Tiberius Kirk” bit at the end of it.

Must be saving it for the Director’s Cut. Or worried about getting sued by Disney.

As mentioned earlier, one could argue that the choice of a `60s sports car has symbolic intent. Besides, do we really need to encourage MORE product placement in a Trek film?

Cars have not been around for 200 years, and neither has Beastie Boys type pop music. That’s why that didn’t feel weird to me. You can’t really say no one would do it because no one has had the chance. Cars, which can travel well over 100mph, are an entirely different beast than horses. No one really listened to Mozart while cruising around in their buggy or chariot(or whatever the hell they cruised around in back then) did they? It’s not like they had radios back then.

And there are people who pay ridiculous amounts of money for things for no other reason than those things are old. There are people who don’t consider the stuff created in the last couple of hundred years to even be ‘music’. The love of antique objects is not uncommon.

It’s not hard to believe that a kid in the future will be attracted to a vehicle that provides the ability to travel very high speeds, very close to the ground, with a very high risk of danger(ie no modern safety equipment). And it’s not hard to believe that he might feel like listening to the music that people ‘back then’ would be listening to while they drove that vehicle.

Lots of people like listening to oldies while cruising in a hot rod or low rider.

So this thread has succeeded in ferreting out non-Futurama watchers.

The thing about “classical music” is a joke. Fry was sitting in his apartment listening to “Baby Got Back”, and Leela tells him he “can’t just sit around listening to classical music all day”.

Of course there are good reasons that Beastie Boys are different from Mozart. That’s what makes it funny.

we can go visit them after the post atomic horror. a nuclear war might make some big holes.

that was awesome, spock totally wailed on that kid. plus, when that guy brought his mom into it, calling her a disadvantage? and then complaining that no vulcan has ever turned down a position at the vulcan science academy?

since i am only half vulcan then your record remains untainted.

oh, buuuuuuurn.

my favorite theory is that this universe is the mirror mirror universe. those war scenes in the opening credits of enterprise’s mirror universe episodes? most of those are from our timeline.

Not 10 year olds.

It’s ridiculous.

I wasn’t into contemporary music when I was a kid …

I didn’t steal very many cars, though.

Night on Bald Mountain was some of my favorite “Run around and play superhero” music as a little kid because it sounded so dramatic.

Indeed it was, the Rock of Ages granite quarry (purportedly the largest in the world) in Barre, Vermont.

Would you steal a handsome cab to drive around in while you listened to it?

Regarding the question of who the kid BratKirk drove by was, it was his brother George Samuel Kirk. (Sam, from “Operation: Annihilate!”)

There was a scene cut from the movie with Sam and Kirk’s stepdad.

Hansom

Also: the music in the car would naturally be the stepfather’s music, it being his car and all.

Jesus fuck Mayer you need to lighten up.

I see it no different from SCA/Renfaire people, who frequently meet and recreate things from 400 years ago. :P

I’ve never watched any other ST shows or movies, but I really liked this movie. One thing I have to gripe about is the use of time travel… It works in some movies, but in one like this it just feels wrong. Makes it too easy to find plot holes or problems with the entire theory. And two Spocks existing at the same time? Did this happen in the other STs? It seems silly to me.

Believe it or not, this is one of the more successful implementations of time travel as a plot device in a Star Trek story.

Besides, all the “modern” music they show in Star Trek is either classical music, weird alien ambient music, or classical music combined with weird alien ambient music. If a kid wants something more high energy he’s got to dig up 20-21st century oldies.

I was about to say that “In the future, no one is angry at their dad, so punk and metal have died.”

But then I remembered that we’re discussing PissyKidKirk here. Clearly if they go back and do a “Star Trek Babies!” prequel, he’ll have a gratuitous scene where he’s the lead singer of a “hardcore” band and basically just replace the singer of a more famous modern band. Maybe Vanilla Ice’s new metal band?

What the heck is the matter with you people? Am I the only one who assumed the choice of Beastie Boys song was because of Shatner’s infamous recording session where he boogers up the pronunciation of “sabotage”? I got a good chuckle out of that and I’m not even enough of a Star Trek nerd to know much about Shatner!

 -Tom

No Tom I thought of that too.

“You say sabotage. I say Sabatage.”