Convention animation based on nuTrek
Makes no sense, but is a nice professional job.
bkrani
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ooh. My one serious quibble about the movie.
What naval institution allows a convicted and sentenced mutineer to step up and take command as Captain of the navy’s flagship?
Spock as (acting) Captain marooned Kirk for mutiny. Everything I know about naval law ( . <-- microdot contain everything I know about naval law) says that Captain’s word is law on these ships.
/quibble off.
Tobias is pretty awesome. I’ve been using his work as desktops for a while now. I guess he has done a ton of stuff for the Trek magazine too.
Editer
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That’s Tobias Richter. He’s been doing awesome Trek animations since the Amiga days.
There was no trial and no due process. While wandering around on the M-class planet THAT WASN’T AN ICE PLANET, IT JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE AN ARCTIC REGION, Kirk pointed out that Spock’s action was in violation of Starfleet protocol.
Spock’s lucky he’s still an officer after losing his temper and marooning his XO.
Oh man, seeing the nerd rage in this thread warms my heart. The fact that you care enough to hate each other on the internet over the movie means one thing… Star Trek is back!!
NO IT’S NOT! There wasn’t even a Jefferies Tube in the movie!!
Kael
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In all fairness he did save the world. As much as you may compare to other acts of heroism, that one is significantly better than any of them.
Imagine that a terrorist state launches a massive nuclear missile at the united states. The military launches all its counter defenses and they all fail. Then one air force cadet jumps in a fighter, flies up and shoots down the missile in midair, saving the entire east coast. Not only would he be instantly promoted to whatever position he wanted, he could probably become president after that act.
And thats just for saving the east coast (which isnt even the good coast).
Kirk still assaulted 2 security officers aboard the ship when they were just restraining him.
My real issue here is, does the enterprise not have a brig? Either they ejected Kirk’s pod at warp (can they do that?), or they exited warp long enough to eject Kirk, then re-entered warp, which seems like a huge waste of time. Narrative impetus aside, there’s no reasonable explanation for why they’d eject him from the ship instead of just locking him up.
Kael
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I cant believe Im defending a movie so full of holes. But here goes.
I actually was impressed Spock kicked Kirk off the ship. Putting him in the brig exposes him to further mutiny issues, especially if he suspects Kirk may have people that sympathize with him on board. I really liked the perfect logic of this, he didn’t mess around, he didn’t pick the middle ground, and it wasn’t emotional. He saw the potential of a major issue that could fragment the crew and he dealt with in the most effective way possible (short of killing Kirk).
My coast can beat up your coast!!
MikeJ
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I think they were still in the same system as Vulcan when they ejected Kirk. Remember the Romulans dumped Spock there so he could get a ringside seat and apparently old Spock saw the destruction of Vulcan with his own eyes.
At first I thought the planet they were on was a moon of Vulcan (to be close enough to see it that clearly). Of course, there’s the gravity issue and probably the radiation from the formation of the black hole would kill everyone that close. On the other hand, another planet in the Vulcan system wouldn’t be close enough to see Vulcan getting eaten unless Vulcans have telescopic eyesight. Then you have Scotty apparently unconcerned about the populated planet that got eaten just next door…
The, uh, unique atmosphere of Delta Vega has a magnifying effect on celestial objects, and Scotty never goes outdoors because it’s cold.
balut
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And not once did they lose their starboard power coupling!
I wanted to chime in and say how much I love this scene in this episode (Season 3: Different Destinations) and watch it over and over again. Harvey playing “home on the range” on his harmonica while Chricton, chained and annoyed, has to listen in is just hysterical and such a great use of music to fit with the theme of the scene. And the explanation for time - later expanded on by “Einstein” in Season 4’s “Unrealized Reality” is still a great piece of high-minded sci-fi wanking.
But, back to Star Trek.
I pretty much liked the movie I guess, although I felt it was pretty insubstantial. I have the director’s cut of Wrath of Khan on DVD and watched that a day later, and was struck by how it was a slower film, certainly not a film for today, but in many ways a much better film, with some absolutely fantastic scenes marred by slower paced tedium in some spots.
There weren’t any absolutely fantastic scenes in the new Star Trek, but maybe in the sequel there will be.
I’ve been meaning to ask this for weeks, but with just a cursory knowledge of TOS, can I watch Wrath of Khan and actually enjoy it?
I think what I know of TOS comes from the animated version they played on Nickelodeon two decades ago, so while I know enough to get most of the references made in the newer film, I don’t how I’d react to one of the older films that might require more background.
Sure you can. It’s not something esoteric, plus they kinda made slight changes. The original TOS episode that involves Khan is called Space Seed if you’re curious. All of the TOS episodes are availe on YouTube/CBS, and while it’s certainly not necessary for the movies, as with anything that jumps to the big screen, you can get more out of it after watching the originals.
So I was thinking today…
Why did they need to waste time coring to the center of the planet to drop the red matter in there? Couldn’t they just have tossed a wad of red matter in the general direction of the planet and let the resulting black hole do the rest? I mean, you could just sorta drop it anywhere.
ScottE
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The heat from the core of the planet was what provided the spark to create the black hole. I’m not sure if that was explained in the movie or if it’s something I picked up from the novelization.
