Stadia - Google's vision for the future of gaming

Yeah Stadia had problems with reputation, business model, etc. but I think the fact they based it on Linux and required ports for every game was their problem.

GeForce now and xbox cloud just…work. With basically all pc (GeForce) or Xbox (xCloud) games. Developers don’t allow everything, but developers also don’t need to work to enable them.

But stadia backed themselves into a corner with a platform that didn’t support any games without work for each game. So then they had to pay basically every developer to join up, and bank on eventually making that money back somehow. It’s a huge uphill climb that neither GeForce nor Xbox need to deal with.

If stadia used windows or steam anything else that made games easy to port, then the “only” thing they’d have to deal with is….well, everything else.

Windows licensing is expensive.

Isn’t the Steam Deck basically a linux box, too? Granted, you can’t play everything on the Steam Deck (yet), but it seems like Proton is making Windows games run pretty well. Was it too little/too late for Stadia?

I know people who brought Borderlands 3 expecting same screen split screen multiplayer of consoles but not being to with the Stadia version.

So not a console port nor a PC version.

Hangouts Gaming here I come!

I just realised that with emulation like Proton, the onus is on the emulation layer to make things work (Proton and the linux Steam app are all “responsible” for making things work, so it’s kind of in Valve’s court). This could happen/usually happens? without the original devs (and probably does for any app support for games no longer actively in dev games).

Stadia support is like Epic or GOG support - in theory minor changes, but the onus is on the developer to make it work by changing things in the actual app rather than Google supporting it, which is a huge difference for both the consumer (there’s no way to bring your existing games to the platform) and the devs (usually dev time is already thing for actual game patches, let alone more platform work). I guess you’d need to have a “Steam compatibility layer” and I can see why I’ve never heard of anything like that existing…

And then it reminds me that folks are weird about streaming - even if it did work for free, there are devs that are not okay with it!

I think the difference is that Valve has been working on gaming for decades and Linux for a very long time. Steak Deck handles this well, but Steam Boxes did not when they came out years ago.

Nothing was technically stopping Google from doing the same with Stadia, but they just….didn’t. They don’t have the people, the expertise, the developer relations, and Stadia’s leadership thought the platform’s existence alone was enough to get developers on board.

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I want one!

I just checked quickly and one of them comes in at $650. I can’t imagine any scenario wherein I would willingly pay $650 for a Chromebook.

I was wondering what the heck was going on so I had to click the link. They’re teaming up with GeForce Now, is what’s going on.

Yeah, but anything can play GFN. Only thing that makes these “gaming” laptops is the 120Hz display.

Right, but I was wondering where the heck the cloud gaming was going to come from if they’re shutting down stadia servers. The answer is: GFN.

Oh sure, yeah, this was originally intended for Stadia. Not that it would have succeeded even if Stadia itself was a success, because ain’t nobody paying $650 for a Chromebook.

I mean, GeForce Now gets what killed Stadia: Having access to games in my Steam/Epic libraries that I already own instead of having to buy them again. Still not EVERYTHING is supported, but day 1 I signed up, I already had a bunch of games available to me.

I think Stadia’s whole idea of having to buy games specifically on their platform was really a hindrance, when coupled with Google’s tendency to shut their services down.

Dear Stadia Player,

As part of Stadia’s wind-down process, today we’re beginning to process the refunds we outlined in our September 29 announcement. We’re getting in touch to let you know what to expect over the next couple of weeks.

How will your Stadia Store refund(s) be processed?

We will attempt to automatically refund each transaction to the form of payment used to make the purchase. In the event that the refund was not successful, you will receive an email with a link to choose another form of payment to issue the refund to.

For Stadia Players that have deleted their Google account, we will still attempt to automatically refund the transaction to the original form of payment.

When will you receive your refund?

We have begun issuing refunds and Stadia will attempt to automatically process refunds for all purchases of games, add-on content and subscriptions fees other than Stadia Pro made through the Stadia store.

We ask for your patience as we work through each transaction and that you refrain from contacting Customer Support as they will be unable to expedite your refund during this time. We expect the majority of refunds to be processed by January 18th, 2023.

I’m waiting for my 99 cent refund!

I’m getting like twenty bucks, bought the premiere launch bundle or whatever a year in when it got really cheap just for future nostalgia purposes.

And maybe thinking I’d use the controller on PC, but I’ve already got an XSX controller, two x360s somewhere, steam controller, and the gamepad that came with a shieldTV so probably not.

I bought the Stadia Founders Edition in Dec 2019 because the month before my gaming PC died. For the short term it was a great solution to play the latest games like Cyberpunk and Doom Eternal. Over the next year two, I bought quite a few games it seems.

Google started refunding me tonight for each purchase individually, so my email has been like a slot machine paying out, $79.99, 79.99, 39.99 etc etc. Ding Ding Ding!!!

So far I am up to $623.00 and they haven’t even refunded the hardware yet, which is an additional $169.00.

I didn’t realize I had spent so much on games, so it is really a pleasant surprise. I have since replaced my gaming pc, so I haven’t used Stadia in about a year but definitely got my money’s worth. The refunds are just gravy.

I am still using the Chromecast Ultra, which is a great piece of hardware, and I
think the controller can be used with Windows via USB, but not sure.

I got my 99 cents back for Borderlands 3 ultimate edition.